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[-] Illegalmexicant@lemmy.world 130 points 4 months ago

Wow. Made it 42 years and thought "I need to murder a child"

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

To be fair, it was a toddler.

/s in case that wasn't obvious.

Also, "possible hate crime"? It clearly was. Getting really tired of these bullshit headlines that don't actually say what happened. The "alleged" for the crime since they haven't been convicted is already in the headline, that's fine, I get he legal distinction there, but then say what's actually alleged and don't try to hide the reality of what's alleged. This is clearly a hate crime, there's no question of that. It's not an alleged possible hate crime, it's just an alleged hate crime.

According to a press release from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the mother appeared to be visibly Muslim, as she was wearing a hijab and modest swimwear to the pool at the time of the incident.

Police said Wolf also asked the mother if two of the children in the pool were hers before allegedly attempting to grab one of them, a 6-year-old boy, who was able to get away.

Wolf also allegedly snatched the mother’s headscarf off while she tried to save her daughter and beat her with it, according to CAIR.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

She was charged with attempted capital murder and injury to a child. ... The Euless Police Department has recommended that the incident be considered a hate crime and the Tarrant County District Attorney’s Office is currently investigating it

"Alleged" is what the DA has charged.

"Possible" is what the DA might add to the charges.

The opinions of the reporter, who is not a lawyer much less a prosecutor, are not helpful.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

“Possible” is what the DA might add to the charges.

If the DA hasn't added that already based on even this limited public information, I question their ability to do their damned job. There's nothing "possible" about this being racially motivated, which clearly makes it a hate crime. The initial charges should have been for a hate crime and adjusted to remove that if necessary.

But it's Texas, they don't want to prosecute white people for being racist against anyone brown, that sets a precedent with the public they don't want.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If the DA hasn't added that already based on even this limited public information

The DA also has access to non-public information, including potential exculpatory evidence.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Can't imagine what sort of exculpatory evidence there could be for someone asking where someone is from, then trying to drown their child, and beating them with their hijab. There is a pretty damned cut and dry racial motive there. Unless the white woman was secretly Muslim somehow it seems pretty straightforward.

Or... the simplest explanation is that it's a smaller suburb of Dallas-Ft Worth where the largest ethnic group by far is white, in a district that went 62.2% Republican in the 2022 election, and the government officials don't want to publicly denounce racism like that because that's what the citizens in that area expect of their government.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Can't imagine what sort of exculpatory evidence there could be

Not being able to imagine something doesn't mean it can't exist.

the simplest explanation is that it's a smaller suburb of Dallas-Ft Worth

Suburbs don't prosecute, the county DA does. This county voted for Biden in 2020, and it prosecuted 42 hate crimes in 2022.

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[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Publishers have to use the walking on eggshells language even when it’s obvious what happened because of libel laws. You’re not guilty until convicted in a court of law. Until that point, everything is allegedly, possibly, appears to be.

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It's a CYA thing.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago

Wow, nothing deniable about that at all

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

In that kind of mindset, it's not "child", it's "human animal".

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 62 points 4 months ago

This happened in Texas?

I’m amazed she was even arrested. I’m assuming a full pardon with an apology will be forthcoming.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

She wasn't successful in killing the child, so no, no pardon from Abbott. He only pardons actual convicted killers of hate crimes.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/05/16/daniel-perry-greg-abbott-pardon/

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Nah. In Texas all she has to do is say that God told her to do it, and she'll get a couple years of taking drugs in a hospital.

The exception is Taylor Parker because she killed an ~unborn~ child, and that's a damn step too far.

[-] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 58 points 4 months ago

drown 3 year old ... child

That's just being fucking demonic for the public

Palestinian Muslim

With current events, yes its a hate crime

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

I mean shouldn't it be a hate crime regardless of current events?

But yes.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 17 points 4 months ago

A hate crime is when the crime intentionally targets a specific demographic.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

So it should still be considered a hate crime regardless of current events, no?

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

The attempted murderer said very specific racist things while trying to drown the child.

It's a hate crime as well as attempted murder.

[-] runner_g 5 points 4 months ago

This women attempted murder after confirming the mother was Palestinian. Textbook hate crime.

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[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 49 points 4 months ago

So we have multiple murders or attempted murders of Palestinian children in the US since October 7.

But pro-zionist students on college campuses claimed they feel somehow threatened there. Clearly that should be more important than actual attacks.

[-] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

What this woman did was a heinous hate crime. But this isn't the oppression Olympics. There has been a rise in antisemitism too. No need to diminish that in order to assert that hate crimes against Palestinian people is bad.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 22 points 4 months ago

There is a very systematic and deliberate propaganda effort by many US media, infamously the New York times at the forefront to downplay antimuslim and general racist attacks and overexaggerate feelings of insecurity that do not represent actual danger. As a result of this peaceful campus protests including anti-zionist Jews have been brutally beaten down by the police and fascist mobs. So under the pretense of fighting antisemitism Jews are getting beaten up on campus. But according to the Zionists those are the "wrong kind of Jews" or "self hating Jews" so attacking them is justified in their eyes.

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[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

When antizionism is wrapped up in antisemitism, it’s very easy to see why there is an uptick. There’s no such false equivalence for Palestinians.

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

Same people are demanding to bring the Bible in school

[-] vanontom@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Thou shalt not kill" *

* Only applies to solid white christians. Heaven still available with apology and proper donation.

[-] dch82@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Love thy neighbour as thyself*

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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 35 points 4 months ago

Wanting to murder a child I can understand but you're not supposed to actually do it. Wtf is wrong with people these days.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

If you don't consider them human, you don't consider it murdering a human child.

That's the problem with bigotry. It makes people view others as less-than-human.

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[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 25 points 4 months ago

Just toss this one off a cliff save the money

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Reading the article made the word possible a lot less necessary than expected.

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Police responded to the apartment complex pool in Euless around 5:44 p.m. May 19 regarding “a disturbance between two women,” Euless police said in a news release.

“Upon arrival, officers were told by witnesses that a woman who was very intoxicated had tried to drown a child and argued with the child’s mother,” police said.

The child’s mother, 32, told police that the suspect, identified as Elizabeth Wolf, 42, questioned where she was from and made statements about her not being American, as well as “other racial statements.”

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, said in a news release that the mother visibly appeared to be Muslim, as she was wearing a hijab and modest swimwear. Wolf also asked the woman whether two of the children in the pool were hers before she tried to grab one of them, a 6-year-old boy, who was able to get away, police alleged.

“The mother began helping her son when Wolf grabbed her 3-year-old daughter and forced her underwater,” police said. “The mother was able to pull her daughter from the water. Her daughter had been yelling for help and was coughing up water.”

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 11 points 4 months ago

Fucking hell. That woman needs to be sectioned.

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[-] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 4 months ago

What the Jesus Fucking Christ

[-] ours@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

My money is on "alt-right" brain rot. Some people actually believe they are in a holy/race war for survival.

Poor, poor bastards.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago
[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 4 months ago

"possible hate crime".....

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

It’s not the journalist’s job to determine that, it’s a court’s job to do so. Until then, everything is alleged or possible.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 4 months ago

You can use less washy words. For example you can say "a woman has been accused of a hate crime, if these alligatons are true then..."

The way these stories are written now not only use the "allegedly" they also tend to use language that down plays the event.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

This kind of shit is why I still believe in a death penalty.

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Death penalty is expensive, and I don't believe in spending more money than necessary on scum like this.

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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago

You'll get a lot of hate for that but I agree.

[-] Deadful@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago
[-] OkGo@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Hate is an irrational emotion.

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 7 points 4 months ago

Aren't emotions by definition irrational?

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