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[-] Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago

The Internet was...Weird. it was way more anonymous and way less centralized. You didn't just check Reddit or Lemmy or YouTube, you had a favorites bar. You would go down the list and check 4 different flash websites, 3 forums, and some news/entertainment article sites.

And friends would constantly tell you new sites you had to check out. And webcomics. You would find a webcomic and read it from the start, then add it to your weekly update list.

It was also peak gross Internet. You would always be wary of links friends would send. Goatse and lemon party were guaranteed to be hiding in one.

Everyone had their favorite flash game site. Simple, one player games that you did just for fun. No achievements or social element besides sharing the link with a friend.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

one player

That one tank game where you took turns against the computer and/or others players begs to differ :P

[-] Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah and there were a handful of multiplayer ones where one player used the left half of the keyboard and the second player used the right half.

And maybe a handful of websites where there was actually a chatroom where you talked with a stranger while you played your shitty flash game.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

FireBoy and WaterGirl was the most popular two-player flash game when I was in school.

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Shellshock Live is a steam game I found that's essentially full fledged tanks with local and online mp

[-] superduperpirate@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

goatse

Found out about that one the hard way in college. Ew.

[-] Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Consider yourself lucky. I think I was in high school.

I was very relieved when Rick Rolling replaced that trend.

[-] Chai@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago

I've heard of goatse and two girls one cup but never visited them myself. I'm not sure if I ever want to find out what they refer to

Learnt about the series Making Fiends from an online friend. Good memories 🥰

[-] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Never talk to muffin trees!

[-] TheOneCurly@lemm.ee 43 points 4 months ago

I was on the younger side so it was mostly flash game and animation sites. Homestar runner, albinoblacksheep, miniclip, addicting games, runescape.

[-] cybercitizen4@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago

We must be around the same age haha because those were staples for me too, I was obsessed with motherload on minclip, RuneScape and age of empires lol

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago

For anyone interested in replaying those old games

https://flashpointarchive.org/

[-] toastboy79@kbin.earth 10 points 4 months ago

Miniclip and addicting games were so good! Those were simpler times for sure.

also

FIRE ZE MISSILES

[-] Mesophar@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago
[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Fucking kangaroos

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Miniclip - now there's a name I haven't heard in a very long time...

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

Shout out to XGen Studios, who made Motherload along with Stick RPG, Stick Arena, Defend your Castle, etc.

The era of flash games will remain forever goated in my eyes. Nostalgia tinted glasses but I refuse to take them off. This game is also a core memory. I feel bad for kids nowadays, these games were so much fun and 100% free and playable on any computer.

[-] OmegaMouse@pawb.social 7 points 4 months ago

I used to love the Madness series and that game! There's a game on Steam by the same devs (at least I think it must be the same devs) - https://store.steampowered.com/app/488860/MADNESS_Project_Nexus/

[-] dumples@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

Homestarrunner.net it's dot com

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Google could actually find you things.

The first page of searches was almost never brimming with corporate shit, but very Web 1.0 looking niche websites.

Browser based games were all the rage.

Oh God, flash animations. Albino Blacksheep. Our sense of humor was... primitive.

Fuck, webcomics too. They were big back then. And mostly shit, lmao.

Everyone had a blog. Not like modern cookie-cutter blogs, but slapdash HTML pages with unintuitive layouts and garish backgrounds and graphics. 9/10 times that's where super obscure information was. Midi files - god, do kids even know what midi files are anymore?

There were a million fansites for every fandom. No centralization.

There was a much stronger sense of the internet being a unique place, apart from meatspace. Maybe it was just the aftermath of the dotcom bubble busting, but everything was very... open. Communal. People just... freely sharing themselves and their work.

[-] Plum@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Everyone had a blog.

I'm so glad my Diary-X got irretrievably wiped.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

webmaster

hard drive failure

they are not worthy of the title if they just had one disk and no backups. to be so knowledgeable and yet so stupid is a memorable achievement.

[-] Chai@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago

Didn't have one of those but I did have a Livejournal, GreatestJournal, Xanga and Diaryland plus others.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dial up, mostly. Cable showed up pretty quick. Slower. More open. More egalitarian. Not SEO’d. Simpler. Anyone could make a webpage and find a free place to host it or spend just a few dollars a month for a better site host. Lots of phpbb forums or similar, basically Reddit except each sub is its own independent forum with its own, independent mods. Bots weren’t a concern. Trolls weren’t really formalized, though they certainly existed. Assholes gotta be assholes. Ads were barely a thing. The gnashing of teeth as banner ads first started to make inroads was real. There were lots of search engines.

It was a bit more dangerous though. You could relatively easily download or open a virus, email spam with malware was definitely a thing and not filtered by ISPs. You could find some really dark corners and see some pretty awful things, ogrish was the precursor to live leak. Newsgroups were popular and a great place to find warez (nobody calls it warez anymore).

There were a lot of people that made free software to fill in the gaps where big software needed help. Everything from photoshop filters to windows tweak tools to things like Gimp got some of their starts early on as dedicated programmers did it because they could. Plenty of niche hobby forums, help forums, weird shit, and almost none of it was monetized. There was no real social media. We just had newsgroups, AIM, MIRC, ICQ and the like.

It was like MTV when they actually just played music and didn’t start all the tv show BS.

I do miss that internet. I think it was easier to actually connect with people, content wasn’t shoved in your face, ads weren’t shoved in your face, you weren’t constantly tracked. You weren’t monetized. You were part of the internet, not the object to have money extracted from.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago

Trolling was one of the first things that was established and basically the main entertainment and mode of use.

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[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't know, I was too busy playing Starcraft.

edit: Wait, hold on, just remembered something. I'll just leave this here. Not a rickroll or anything, while that's tempting, I promise.

https://youtu.be/X2UXIaAo12w

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
[-] Nougat@fedia.io 13 points 4 months ago

This is a little bit before, but a story worth telling (again).

In 1995, I got AOL. Of course, this was in the days where only dialup existed, and when AOL was not flat rate, but charged extra for any time spent online over 30 hours a month. I had some bills.

My 486 computer had a 14.4Kbps modem in it, which I decided I would upgrade to a 33.6Kbps. This was the fastest I could get at the time. Surely, I would enjoy this new superfast speed, right?

No, no I would not. I noticed that I was only ever connecting at 2400 - and this was when the "standard" for dialup was 14.4. AOL advertised 28.8 at the time, as I recall.

I tried all manner of modem strings to try and get my fancy 33.6 to connect to AOL at any speed higher than 2400, to no avail. I spent hours waiting in line in their "support" chat rooms (which I later learned were staffed by unpaid volunteers who may not have known anything about anything). Then I finally decided to try using the toll-free 800 number (which AOL charged a premium to use).

Bang, connected at 14.4Kbps. Back to my local number, 2400. ... Wait what? Okay, then it's not me, it's them.

I did even more digging to discover that AOL only offered "high speeds" in certain metropolitan areas. AOL numbers local to me were not included in any of those, so I got 2400bps, because that's all AOL would give. And by this time, the "standard" for dialup had jumped to 28.8Kbps.

All of those super high AOL bills from before (they'd since moved to flat rate unlimited) were exacerbated by "downloading art" at 2400bps.

I immediately went to the grocery store, bought a computer magazine, thumbed through it until I found a regular old ISP (Netcom), and called them on the phone to sign up.

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Broadband internet was a game changer. I spent a lot of time on fark.com and various other message boards. Chatted with friends over AOL instant messages and IRC.

There was a certain video format for Realplayer that seemed to be the extremely popular for a while and it still…. (Buffering)…. Sucked…. (Buffering)…. Ass

[-] Contentedness@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 months ago

Fark was huge for me back then. Also things like ICQ were the main ways I kept in touch with friends in the pre smart phone times.

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 months ago

In the late 1990s I was at university using their OC-48 lines. So I had a share of a ~2GBit connection while most of the people were lucky to get 56k.

In the dorms, everyone was assigned an IP address but most people still didn't have their own computers. So my roommate and I convinced a bunch of other people on our floor to give us their IPs - and our RA was also a Network admin, so he was able to facilitate. We ran a web server, forums, Quake and Team Fortress (1) servers (Clan Clam for folks that remember Quake Clans), and some very private file servers. All running on found hardware.

The speed was so fast compared to most folks that it was a bit like having a data related super power.

[-] Rockthisrobot@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

Magic. That’s when higher speeds started coming around. Downloading a song in less time than it took to listen to the song was suddenly a reality.

[-] UnityDevice@startrek.website 9 points 4 months ago

You can catch a glimpse of what the websites were like using the web archive. A good starting point would be a popular web directory, like for example the Google directory from 2004.

[-] stelelor@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

My first brush with the internet was in 2000. We had our family computer in the living room. Our dial-up ISP was Funcow. The local newspaper had a little section where they talked about fun websites to visit (family-friendly of course) and we would check them out in the evening. I know that Google existed but we didn't use it - we had AltaVista, then Yahoo. These were also website directories - basically lists of websites grouped by topics. So if you didn't find what you were looking for on one website, you'd try the next one, and so on. And the websites themselves were basically made by hand in html. To stand out some people threw in lots of little animated icons garish colors, weird website layouts, background music that couldn't be turned off... It was 100% amateur and unpolished, and much much MUCH more diverse than today's internet. But slowly, massively popular websites and tools started to dominate. Microsoft had a huge presence through Hotmail, MSN.com, and MSN Messenger. But Yahoo Messenger had video chatting first (IIRC). There were fansites about everything under the sun but no Wikipedia so researching any given topic in depth was a mammoth, tedious task. In 7th grade I wrote a research paper on ferrets and referenced about half a dozen websites but only collected about two sentences worth of useful information from each - so research was still heavily reliant on books and libraries. Speaking of libraries: that's where almost everyone went for free internet. Schools and colleges also had computer labs with free internet and woefully inadequate content filters. It was crazy. It was awesome.

[-] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Forums instead of social media, IRC/ICQ/AIM for chat, websites were much more static.... unless using Flash, newgrounds full of Flash games.

FTP/IRC was source of media distribution until transitions to, bittorrent was new, and napster, limewire, kazaa were things. Newsgroups have existed for all time, but not really including them because less mainstream.

Windows would allow broadcast messages to just pop-up on your computer. Needed to implement your own firewall like Zonealarm, these things weren't just default.... computers kinds of just 'directly' connected to the internet without any appliance in the way at first.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Steam didn't exist, so games were bought individually in boxes at stores, and valve games were like sharing your IP with friends, listing of servers... speaking of, early Counter Strike and stuff didn't have any anti-cheat.... if you added anti-cheat to your CS server when first coming out, people getting caught would be shocked, since they didnt know they could get caught, always in denial for 'false positives', and really find out who of your friends aren't actually good and were just cheating all along.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Newgrounds (still exists!)

Homestarrunner (still exists!)

Neopets (also somehow still exists!)

Websites for advertising movies was a thrilling new phenomenon.

Search algorithms were much more primitive, but due to the public internet being basically much, much smaller, it was faaaar easier to find basically random people's personal sites (before the term blog even came around), discussing a niche topic.

At the same time, a whole lot of sites were still disseminated by word of mouth, person to person, or maybe via email. Running a TV ad for a website was basically a gigantic gamble for early sites... only those with huge amounts of money could even attempt it and it often just outright caused the whole enterprise to fail if you had moderate or little funding.

We did not have touch screen mobile devices with full keyboards, we had SMS T9 texting, which (like pagers before them) led to shorthand (lol is probably the best example) and a good deal of early internet lingo.

There was no ability to basically constantly post some kind if personal update to your personal site or eventually MySpace as is now the norm with modern tech and social media, so people that post usually put a good deal more thought into it.

Forums. The old net used to be far, far more based on communities in forums. Far less emphasis on basically mundane, every day posts about your life and opinions, and more centered around actual discussion of topics or issues.

Oh right of course: GameFaqs.

Back when you could only use the internet if no one else was using a phone in the house, waay before 8 hour in depth video guides explained to you how to do everything in a game...

We had to print out guides with chapter headings written in ASCII art, and it was quite common to be seen as giving up or cheating if you needed a guide to complete a mission or unlock some secret.

Oh and if you think lag is a problem nowadays in online games, try playing an FPS where most people have a ping around or over 200, constantly rubber banding all over the place, yourself included.

Or getting desynced in Starcraft for 30 seconds, every 5 minutes, basically every game.

[-] Plum@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Back in the AOL CD via postal mail days, the Internet was the AOL home page. News feeds, email, dumb games, chat rooms, message boards.... and rotten.com for everything else.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

Man, I've been using the internet since 1994. Back then I started with CompuServe. Think like AOL but more beige. It had an instant messaging system and email and a portal with various pages on different topics. But you could also use a browser, like Mosaic or Netscape, to browse the internet. I used Alta Vista and Excite and Yahoo as search engines. There were also personal website that people wrote in basic HTML and hosted on Geocities and communities on specific topics would create webrings to link these sites together. We also used apps like Gopher and Usenet Newsgroups.

And before that it was BBS, bulletin board services, which were computers managed by strangers and you would just call them with your phone line modem using a terminal software and their system would pick up and establish a connection if it was available. You could access messages, emails, upload or download files, and some have you access to the internet if you were lucky.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Frustrating from a hardware perspective. I was constantly tweaking my hardware and software, saving my pennies for some new part.

There was always some bottleneck. RAM, CPU, modem, whatever, something needed upgraded or tweaked. OTOH, everything was upgradable.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

There were lots of little niche forums where you could find a lot of different perspectives. I remember as a kid going to nuklearpower.com, the home of the 8-Bit theater webcomic, and I found a thread in the forums about religion and it was kind of my first real exposure to ideas about it outside of what I'd been raised to believe.

Most early memes were lolcats or epic fails, and I remember going through pages and pages on cheezburger.com with my friends. There were also "demotivational posters," like this was the height of comedy.

4chan existed and was pretty bad even then but it was more common for somewhat normal people to go there, they loved their slurs and gross out humor but it wasn't full nazi, it was edgy teens. In general slurs and homophobia were a lot more common, but a lot of the edgy, "you can't tell me what to do" energy was directed at the religious right, the "moral guardians" who wanted to take away your violent video games. The left was very weak and didn't have the sort of cultural presence it has today, instead you had a lot of energy directed towards libertarianism, with Ron Paul being the anti-war, pro-weed candidate, and you had liberals with ACLU type values. Things weren't cut as neatly along party lines back then.

Fewer people were on the internet back then. Lots of young people used it but not as many boomers. There weren't as many big pillars like Facebook/Twitter/Reddit, there were more subcultures and you never quite knew what you'd find (for better or worse). Algorithms were a lot less polished and you didn't have as much SEO, Youtube looked and felt radically different.

The indie game Secret Little Haven captures some of the feel of that time period of the internet, from the perspective of a transfem, it gets heavy but it's good.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Early YouTube was the best

[-] Chai@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago

I remember e-mail providers having low storage, maybe 1MB max and getting e-mails frequently deleted by said providers after not logging in after a certain time.

Using MSN and yahoo chat rooms were a fun way to meet people. I remember there being rooms on Yahoo (were they called conferences?) just for people to have singing sessions.

Locally, almost everyone with a computer and dialup had MSN messenger installed, so plenty chatting with classmates after school on there.

I vaguely remember being subscribed to yahoo groups for fan and local interests. They were a good way to be kept informed.

Surfing the web was fun. I never knew what I would find next.

Oh and Neopets.

[-] kowcop@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago

I think I got online around 1995 when I went to an internet cafe and paid my $4 an hour to see what the fuss was about. I think I bought a modem on the way home and I was hooked. Back then there wasn’t really even a search engine, you went to a portal page.. then came basic search like altavista, excite then google.

There were tonnes of communities and web chats if IRC wasn’t your thing, then there was the wave of dedicated chat apps like ICQ, MSN Messenger etc

I have many fond memories of the internet before it became a vehicle for commerce

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago

It was great. You could search for just about ANYTHING and find it right away. We need to figure out a way to start over.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

Joesblogaboutstuff will always have more credibility than googling Reddit.

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

But before Google there was nothing to search. You had to know exactly where you wanted to go and one type left you nowhere. I remember when we got dial up around the mid 90's my dad told me I need the exact web adress, or it's not working. Wild times.

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago

There were also "web rings" which basically amounted to crappy HTML snippets you put on your website, and you'd be in a linksharing ring with other sites of similar topic etc. It was supposed to drive traffic between the sites.

Circa this time there were 10,000 teenage kids with nearly identical Dragonball Z sites, hosted on GeoCities, Homestead, or other free services.

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[-] luciole@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

Personal websites were a thing. Web design was in its infancy and tools were pretty basic so every site looked different and artisanal. Fiddle with HTML in notepad, upload by FTP on some cheap host and there you are. There were webrings and guest books to connect with each other. I started corresponding with the woman who became my wife because she signed my guest book :)

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When you played a PC game online, you didn't just hit a button and get put into a game somewhere; you had to look at all the servers and pick one. You could then come back to that same server whenever you wanted to play and hang out with the same people.

Also the server wasn't ran by or owned by the game creators, but by the players themselves who would host servers or at least rent them from server hosting services.

Oh and content wasn't sold piecemeal to nickel and dime the fuck out of you.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I mostly spent my time on Livejournal, or reading large family adoption blogs. As a result I have friends with 27 and 39 kids respectively. Blogging was so sweet then and so therapeutic. Facebook ruined everything.

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