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[-] oce@jlai.lu 129 points 5 months ago

As a French, the fact that no white flag was mentioned in these comments like it would have inevitably on reddit shows the quality of the chaps in here.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Liberté, égalité, fraternité. The Americans learned it from you lot. Might do them well to remember.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago

Wasn't the American revolution like a decade before the French one?

[-] Noblesavage@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yep, you're right. After a quick search, it looks like the American Revolution started in 1765, and the French Revolution started in 1789.

However, I know French policies and political development had a profound impact on the ideas central to liberal democracies, as it could also be said of American policies and political development.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

You sure wouldn't hear that from me. French forces have been badass for a long time.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 17 points 5 months ago

I don't really care about glorifying past military victories but rather about the fact that the white flag internet meme appeared when the French government refused to follow the USA into Irak War II. https://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/07/villepin.transcript/

[-] Liz@midwest.social 7 points 5 months ago

Fucking good on them. That war was bullshit.

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[-] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 5 months ago

Fun fact: the white flag of surrender became widely known in Europe because people were surrendering to the French.

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[-] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 102 points 5 months ago

FROZEN DAIRY DESSERT

Yum, I love air, gums, and stabilizers in my dairy desserts

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago

I'm fine with the air part. There's air in all kinds of whipped desserts.

[-] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago

depends whether the price reflects it or it's an attempt to trick you into paying more for less

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Personally, I care more about the volume of ice cream I eat than the mass. I don't want to pay more for more calories when diminishing marginal utility is already in effect.

[-] bleachisback@programming.dev 9 points 5 months ago

All ice creams have air in them… it’s sort of the point. If you freeze dairy without whipping it it turns solid.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago
[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

yeah, but they call them "shakes".

"shakes", heh. don't know what you're gunna get.

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Yep, screw Breyer’s. They legally cannot call it ice cream.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 79 points 5 months ago

Something about the colors makes me feel like this ice cream is full of TRANS fats.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago

I just really need to point out that no where on this product is it called ice cream. It's a frozen dairy product.

It really bothers me that they're allowed to slap whatever bullshit in an ice cream container, and as long as it's called anything else in the fine print, the fact that we all assume it's ice cream is on US.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 41 points 5 months ago

From the United States Code of Federal Regulations:

§ 58.2825 United States Standard for ice cream.

(a) Ice cream shall contain at least 1.6 pounds of total solids to the gallon, weigh not less than 4.5 pounds to the gallon, and contain not less than 20 percent total milk solids, constituted of not less than 10 percent milkfat. In no case shall the content of milk solids not fat be less than 6 percent. Whey shall not, by weight, be more than 25 percent of the milk solids not fat.

It continues on in that fashion, but if I'm honest I see this as the system working correctly. The food in that carton likely doesn't meet the legal, technical definition of ice cream and thus cannot be labeled as such, and it isn't. There are things that are labelled as ice cream in Europe which cannot be labelled as such here because they don't conform to the above standards. But if you were served a scoop of it and asked what it was, you would confidently identify it as ice cream.

I'll tell you what does bother me though: The front of the package and a marketing blurb on their website refers to it as vanilla, strawberry and blueberry flavored, but the ingredients are listed as:

INGREDIENTS: SKIM MILK, CORN SYRUP, SUGAR, CREAM, FRUCTOSE, STRAWBERRIES, WATER, COCONUT OIL, WHEY, LESS THAN 2% OF: MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, GUAR GUM, NATURAL FLAVOR, BEET JUICE (FOR COLOR), CAROB BEAN GUM, TARA GUM, SPIRULINA EXTRACT (FOR COLOR), ANNATTO (FOR COLOR), VITAMIN A PALMITATE. CONTAINS MILK

Vanilla and blueberries are not listed among the ingredients. I'm guessing whatever wood pulp derived vanillin that most of the vanilla flavored things in the world are actually flavored by is included in the "natural flavor" and we're left to guess where any "bold blueberry deliciousness" is supposed to come from.

I've long thought they shouldn't be allowed to put "natural flavor" as an ingredient as that is too vague, what if there is a "natural flavor" you are allergic to? What if that "natural flavor" is cat smegma?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The blueberry and vanilla flavors are included in the "natural flavors" listing. The FDA defines natural flavors as those that are made by extracting/distilling the flavor from an actual food. It doesn't have blueberries or vanilla; it has the flavor from blueberries and vanilla in the form of blueberry and vanilla extracts.

Artificial flavors are those synthesized in a lab without ever using the original food item.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah, which actual food? People have allergies to actual foods.

Let's say they derive a blueberry-like flavor from grapes because grapes are cheaper or something. I think that's a reasonable thing to allow them to do, grapes are food, they're fruit, "we made one fruit flavor out of another fruit" okay fine. But what if you're allergic to grapes but not blueberries? It should say on the label that this is made from grapes.

"Turns out the blueberry flavored snack that doesn't say the word 'grape' anywhere on the package has grapes in it" is a great reason to visit the ER.

If they're allowed to use basically any ingredient they want and call it "natural flavor" why aren't they just allowed to put the word "substance" in the ingredients list?

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[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

🌎🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀🇫🇷

Always has been

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago
[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 29 points 5 months ago

Nonsense, it's clearly Luxembourg.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Nonsense, this is murica. Brown and blue is clearly separated from white

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 months ago

Also, don't forget that Captain America is actually Captain Puerto Rico.

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just the United States acknowledging its debt to General LaFayette.

[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 16 points 5 months ago

Nobody expects the French inquisition??

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[-] uis@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité. Wait, that's France. Murica is just Liberté. And only for rich.

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[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 12 points 5 months ago
[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

I can't ever remember if Breyers or Dreyers is the shitty one, so I always just buy Tillamook or Blue Bell.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Breyers is the shitty one, you can tell because they can't legally call it "Ice Cream". It is a "Frozen Dairy Dessert" as you can see on the packaging.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Breyers is good. Tillamook and Blue Bell are still better though.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Breyers USED to be good.

I just pointed it out under a different comment, but this isn't actually ice cream. It's a frozen dairy product, because they have fucked up the ingredients so much to cut down on cost they can't call it ice cream anymore.

Unilever bought it and fucked it up.

[-] SoleInvictus 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I used to love Breyers. Remember how their claim on a tub of ice cream tubs was 'only X ingredients'? Now it reads like a chemistry experiment and tastes similar.

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[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

i haven't heard of any of those apart from breyers and breyers isn't very good on my region at least. feels whipped into frozen foam to fill the container with like a quarter of the product, the only one other than nestle that gives me a mouth full of air and a teaspoon of liquid every bite that melts. If I don't let it melt it feels like I swallowed air after what would be over indulging by volume but not weight.

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[-] BassaForte@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

scOOPS, all French people!

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

At least they didn't make it white-blue-red

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I think that's on the Project 2025 agenda

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[-] norimee@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago
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[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago
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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Uh excuse it is easy to understand

Red, White, Blue

Done. 🇺🇸🦅🥧🏈🚀

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Cor gov! ‘Assa union jack i’ is

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I thought Union Jacks were more... asterisky.

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