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[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 111 points 6 months ago

Absolutely 100% agreed. The organizers of the Palestinian protest should have kicked them out.

Not only is this despicable, it dilutes the very important effort of raising awareness of what Israel is doing in Gaza.

[-] edwardbear@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago
[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 6 months ago

Dunno. There's idiots everywhere.

[-] edwardbear@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

My last shred of hope. Why do people have to be dicks, like, all the time

[-] original2@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 95 points 6 months ago

Anti-zionism is not antisemitism.

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes it is, and its a smokescreen to say it is not.

Your downvotes doesn't make your racism not exist. Mobs always think they're right. Fuck all of you.

[-] Whattrees 25 points 6 months ago

Do you care to back up your claim at all or are you just going to go with "these two distinct words with distinct definitions actually mean the same thing because I said so" the same way TERFs and transphobes talk about sex and gender?

Is it possible to support the black community in America without supporting black separatism?

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Saying an imperialist Jewish ethno-state is bad is the same as saying Jews are bad!

Yeah, you're not real bright.

[-] original2@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

It can be but it isn't necessary. I am a Jew and not a Zionist. Obviously the example above is anti simetic, but there are peaceful (but depending on your views perhaps tenuous) arguments against the state of Israel

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

"kill the Jews" and "death to the Jews" are antisemitic not anti Zionists. JFC

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 9 points 6 months ago

Solid attempt at pretending to miss the point.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 69 points 6 months ago

Genocide is bad. Racism is bad. Mmmmkay.

[-] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 36 points 6 months ago

That's all that should need to be said.

I don't care who's genociding, it's wrong

I don't care who's the racist, it's wrong

I don't care for their reasoning or defenses, they are wrong regardless.

Tolerate neither, ever

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 48 points 6 months ago

Uh, who's standing for either one of those besides fucking shitheads?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago

They’re the same picture

[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago

Op is totally not a propagandist. Just memes he likes

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah... I can denounce nazis while and at the same time denounce what Israel is doing in Gaza with a clear conscience.

I think you are mixing up the Star of David with the Israeli flag, which has the star on it.

Edit: I didn't notice the 2 smaller photos, that shit is unacceptable.

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[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

We don't stand for this, the bottom picture are 2 graffiti made by people who we don't know, or when they were made, and 2 protestors with anti-Israel posters, not anti-Semitic. The wide movement of protests are absolutely not anti-Semitic, and you trying to post shit like this conflating anti-zionism with anti-Semitism is disgusting

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

The star of David makes the posters ambiguous they could refer to either Israel or Jews. The grafitti in the images is explicitly antisemitic. Splitting hairs over this is pretty gross imo. I don't like crticiism of Israel being called antisemitic, but that doesn't make antisemitism suddenly ok

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Dude, nobody is saying the graffiti is not anti-Semitic, it literally says "kill the jews", how on earth would that not be antisemitic. I'm saying they're putting the graffiti on top of protestors in an obvious attempt to conflate antizionist protests with antisemitism

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[-] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

In my opinion leftists should create a Zionist symbol to separate Israel(the state) from Jewish people.

If they can convey the separation of the two for normies that would help their rhetoric game massively. (Israel ≠ Jewish people)

I stand by all effort to deny fascists the luxury of an effective narrative (Israel=Jewish people)

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 6 months ago

I mean the girl with the poster with the trash bin clearly put the Israeli flag in it, not just the star of David. If that's going to be called antisemetic then there's no symbol you can really use without getting called antisemetic for it.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 6 months ago

yeah and the other protest one has the american flag in the middle so it to points to governments. I mean the graffitti at the top is not necessarily related to protests at all. You can always find shitty graffiti. Im sure I could walk around the city and within an hour find something with fag written somewhere.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

That being said, using "the final solution" in that context does not look good.

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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I vote for Israeli Flag with a swastika in the middle. Or is that a little unsubtle?

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 6 months ago

Um, we don't?

[-] Anamana@feddit.de 10 points 6 months ago

You can not guarantee that there will be no idiots at a public protest. But if the organisers are aware of them being present and do nothing, they should be judged accordingly.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 9 points 6 months ago

As I keep saying.

If you accuse those against Israel as being antisemitic, you're gonna make more of them actually antisemitic

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Well yeah, antisemitism is antisemitism. Antisemites can and should fuck off, and we should aid them in that process.

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Of course. Shouldn't need to be said, but here we are

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