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Trump Legal Team Pins Hopes on Hung Jury (www.thebulwark.com)

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[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 122 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Juror #2 an "investment banker" who gets all their news exclusively from ~~Trump~~ Truth social and ~~Elon~~ twitter. The red hat is there to save the day, hang the jury on some nonsense to protect the cult leader.

If I'm wrong, and the jury convicts, point to this thread and I'll donate $25 to charity.

The observers in the court won't say who it is, but I guarantee its that one.

Edit: I have chosen Special Olympics Canada as the charity.

Edit2: I was wrong, I will make that donation tonight and post the blurry receipt

[-] HornyOnMain@fedia.io 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To balance it out and give to charity regardless of the outcome, I'll donate $50 if you're right. That way there's always something good happening even if it may be small.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 months ago

Right on

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 30 points 5 months ago

Nah. Most jurors are paying attention to the evidence. Trump supporters aren't the lone rebels they think they are. There's literally a mountain of evidence and the prosecutor's closing argument was 6.5 hours long (not including breaks).

Every other person in that jury room is going to want to go home and won't put up with someone stopping them. Even if this dude tries anything (he probably won't), he's going to crack by day 3.

I bet we see a guilty verdict for at least some of the charges within 3 days.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I dare not hope.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Some jurors just asked for and received a laptop from the prosecution with all the evidence on it. That means they won't have to ask to view individual pieces of evidence, which will make this much faster.

That tells me they are interested in the evidence and that they want to get this over with. A possible quick (3 day) decision would mean they are done by Friday.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

All it takes is one traitor - one - and he walks.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

No, it doesn't. You're watching too much 24 hour news or something. These jurors don't just silently vote, they discuss the case for the entire time.

Any juror is going to be asked by the others how they came to their conclusion. There's no way to get away with it without scrutiny. Trump supporters can't stand scrutiny, especially not with this much evidence and 34 felonies! They should convict on at least some of them. Trump literally signed the checks.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

You’re being naive. MAGA fucktards are not the sort of people who give a fuck about facts and revel in the thought of pissing off the decent among us.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

No, you're being naive if you think one person can stand in the way of 11 New Yorkers who want to go home for the weekend.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 5 points 5 months ago

This got me good. I’m imagining a bro from Staten Island stuck in a dusty quiet room with bad coffee and New Yorkers from every borough 100% ready to cook.

He can’t log off. He can’t flee to his safe spaces. He can’t feed himself reassuring 4chan memes. He’s exposed. These are his neighbors. There’s nowhere to run. Will his fear and adoration of a wannabe dictator sustain him? Tune in next week to find out.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Worse, they're all from Manhattan and 2 of them are lawyers. If they already scheduled a Saturday tee time and the weather is supposed to be nice... I wouldn't want to be in their way.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago

Oh shit, that is worse.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Tee time early Friday, I guess?

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah he did the job! Now If his MAGA friends doxx him, we gotta make a strong showing of solidarity for our neighbor who wasn’t a total asshole. Fair’s fair.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I told you.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

This was all predicated on there being a MAGA traitor on the jury, which can only be known to the traitor himself. But you have fun stroking your dick.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

You won the bet, good on ya.

[-] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you are right I will donate $25 worth of Monopolowa to my stomach.

Edit: convicted lol I donated the Monopolowa anyway skål or should I say dzięki or would it be prost fuck it cheers!

[-] crawancon@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

does lemmy have a RemindMe bot?

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

This is why there are alternates, tho. If the judge says the evidence is there to convict then the jury doesn't have a choice. If one juror is a holdout they just get replaced by an alternate.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Um. This is entirely inaccurate. I think you may have been misled.

The judge is the arbitor of law (only) during the guilt/innocence phase. The jury is the arbitor of fact (only). Only the jury can determine what the facts of the case are, not the judge. In this way, only the jury can determine if sufficient factual evidence exists to fulfill the elements of a crime.

Alternates take the place of jurors who leave (usually for health or family emergency), but jurors cannot be asked to leave because of their decisions in deliberation.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Adding one other thing, a juror can be asked to leave for misconduct as well.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

The observers in the court won’t say who it is, but I guarantee its that one.

Are the votes of the jury generally revealed?

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 4 points 5 months ago

No.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

I had saved this thread! Woo hoo! Glad you pulled through with your promise.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I have chosen Special Olympics Canada as the charity.

Well done!

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago

"A truly hung jury would laugh Trump out of the locker room."

~ Stormy probably

[-] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

Hung is something Trump wished he was.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I certainly wish he was too. Just not in such a nice way :D

[-] ShunkW@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Quirk of English, but the word you're looking for is hanged.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJVNzwTnfbk

Wrong. Hung is correct in the same manner.

I reject your bullshit English rules that are outdated and churlish.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Chicanerous and deplorable.

[-] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

It’s lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I find this meatloaf rather shallow and pedantic.

[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

indubitably

[-] CuttingBoard@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

Covefe.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Some time back he might would have been for treason.

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

You know what they say about men with tiny hands...

[-] athos77@kbin.social 25 points 5 months ago

That's been obvious since the beginning.

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