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Trump Legal Team Pins Hopes on Hung Jury
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Juror #2 an "investment banker" who gets all their news exclusively from ~~Trump~~ Truth social and ~~Elon~~ twitter. The red hat is there to save the day, hang the jury on some nonsense to protect the cult leader.
If I'm wrong, and the jury convicts, point to this thread and I'll donate $25 to charity.
The observers in the court won't say who it is, but I guarantee its that one.
Edit: I have chosen Special Olympics Canada as the charity.
Edit2: I was wrong, I will make that donation tonight and post the blurry receipt
To balance it out and give to charity regardless of the outcome, I'll donate $50 if you're right. That way there's always something good happening even if it may be small.
Right on
Nah. Most jurors are paying attention to the evidence. Trump supporters aren't the lone rebels they think they are. There's literally a mountain of evidence and the prosecutor's closing argument was 6.5 hours long (not including breaks).
Every other person in that jury room is going to want to go home and won't put up with someone stopping them. Even if this dude tries anything (he probably won't), he's going to crack by day 3.
I bet we see a guilty verdict for at least some of the charges within 3 days.
I dare not hope.
Some jurors just asked for and received a laptop from the prosecution with all the evidence on it. That means they won't have to ask to view individual pieces of evidence, which will make this much faster.
That tells me they are interested in the evidence and that they want to get this over with. A possible quick (3 day) decision would mean they are done by Friday.
All it takes is one traitor - one - and he walks.
No, it doesn't. You're watching too much 24 hour news or something. These jurors don't just silently vote, they discuss the case for the entire time.
Any juror is going to be asked by the others how they came to their conclusion. There's no way to get away with it without scrutiny. Trump supporters can't stand scrutiny, especially not with this much evidence and 34 felonies! They should convict on at least some of them. Trump literally signed the checks.
You’re being naive. MAGA fucktards are not the sort of people who give a fuck about facts and revel in the thought of pissing off the decent among us.
No, you're being naive if you think one person can stand in the way of 11 New Yorkers who want to go home for the weekend.
This got me good. I’m imagining a bro from Staten Island stuck in a dusty quiet room with bad coffee and New Yorkers from every borough 100% ready to cook.
He can’t log off. He can’t flee to his safe spaces. He can’t feed himself reassuring 4chan memes. He’s exposed. These are his neighbors. There’s nowhere to run. Will his fear and adoration of a wannabe dictator sustain him? Tune in next week to find out.
Worse, they're all from Manhattan and 2 of them are lawyers. If they already scheduled a Saturday tee time and the weather is supposed to be nice... I wouldn't want to be in their way.
Oh shit, that is worse.
Tee time early Friday, I guess?
Yeah he did the job! Now If his MAGA friends doxx him, we gotta make a strong showing of solidarity for our neighbor who wasn’t a total asshole. Fair’s fair.
I told you.
This was all predicated on there being a MAGA traitor on the jury, which can only be known to the traitor himself. But you have fun stroking your dick.
You won the bet, good on ya.
If you are right I will donate $25 worth of Monopolowa to my stomach.
Edit: convicted lol I donated the Monopolowa anyway skål or should I say dzięki or would it be prost fuck it cheers!
does lemmy have a RemindMe bot?
This is why there are alternates, tho. If the judge says the evidence is there to convict then the jury doesn't have a choice. If one juror is a holdout they just get replaced by an alternate.
Um. This is entirely inaccurate. I think you may have been misled.
The judge is the arbitor of law (only) during the guilt/innocence phase. The jury is the arbitor of fact (only). Only the jury can determine what the facts of the case are, not the judge. In this way, only the jury can determine if sufficient factual evidence exists to fulfill the elements of a crime.
Alternates take the place of jurors who leave (usually for health or family emergency), but jurors cannot be asked to leave because of their decisions in deliberation.
Adding one other thing, a juror can be asked to leave for misconduct as well.
Are the votes of the jury generally revealed?
No.
I had saved this thread! Woo hoo! Glad you pulled through with your promise.
Well done!