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Trump has waffled on whether the Israel-Gaza war should end. But speaking to wealthy donors behind closed doors, he said that he supports Israel’s right to continue “its war on terror.”

Former president Donald Trump promised to crush pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, telling a roomful of donors — a group that he joked included “98 percent of my Jewish friends” — that he would expel student demonstrators from the United States, according to participants in the roundtable event with him in New York.

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[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 159 points 6 months ago

But let’s protest Biden by abstaining in the general! That’ll teach the Dems a lesson! And get a shit ton more Palestinians murdered but I’ll teach the Dems a lesson that they will definitely forget by 2028!

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 73 points 6 months ago

We really need to drive this point home.

Oh, you're not voting for Biden because of his support for Israel? Tell me more about how you care more about teaching dems a lesson than you care about minimizing the Palestinian death toll.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Even if they had the same stance on Israel, which they clearly don’t, let’s not forget the Ukrainians that would lose support on day one of a Trump presidency. Also, China would likely begin to move on Taiwan without US support. He’d set the stage for WWIII and justify it as isolationism.

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[-] slurpyslop@kbin.social 24 points 6 months ago

the democrat party will lose if a segment of their voter base abstains from voting

and

the democrat platform can afford to completely ignore a segment of their voter base so doesn't need to adjust their platform

are two mutually exclusive positions

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Wrong. What the democratic party does is nearly irrelevant.

"We will not vote for Biden because of Gaza" and "We will do what's best for the Palestinians who live in Gaza" are, unfortunately, truly mutually exclusive positions.

It's extremely sad, but that's the position your Republican neighbors have put you in.

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[-] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Only if you ignore that there’s also a segment of Democratic voters who would reconsider support for Biden if he took a stance that they perceived as anti-Israel. Democrats are a coalition party of compromises between factions who have to work together to find as much common ground as possible in order to have any political relevance in a first-past-the-post system. Biden has to walk whatever tightrope loses the fewest votes, and he seems to think that not doing a 180 on decades of US foreign policy is the best way to do that.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 91 points 6 months ago

Where are my “genocide Joe” boys? You, the ones that have nothing to say but Biden/democrats bad?

You always leave this part out. Troll farm tankies.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

BOtHsiDeSsAmE1

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 months ago

Excuse me, but I never leave out that Trump is a fascist who's worse than Biden. And I'll vote Biden against Trump. Biden is still a lying piece of shit absorbing and spreading Israeli propaganda about murdered babies and systematic rape on Oct 7. He's still facilitating a genocide. None of Trump's evil words can change that. Biden can change that, but he chooses not to.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

The fact that no matter who I vote for it's gonna end up with kids being killed on my dime is the problem. At least Biden will pretend to feel bad about it, which is all I've come to expect from my government.

I've long given up on the notion that I get to vote for someone I like in this system.

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[-] suction@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago

If Trump wins and has his SS start shooting Pro-Palestinian protestors, it’ll be really hard to hold back from saying “told you so”

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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 50 points 6 months ago

He's getting ready to speed up the genocide

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

We better elect Biden so we can have incremental death? Both are Zionist pieces of shit not worthy of holding office.

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 45 points 6 months ago
[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

There are not 2 sides, there are 2 right wing factions each skinning a cat and telling everyone their method is best

[-] suction@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Don’t cut yourself on that edge

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago
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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Yeah! Why go for incremental death when we can just kill every other person as fast as possible! Thanos 2024!

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[-] suction@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago

Bbbbbut Biden more bad!! Because Jeenoside

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[-] suction@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

FYI: Most of those braindead "am I not allowed to criticize Biden????" comments and posts on social media are a concerted effort by right-wingers from /pol and other such sewers, trying to get people to not vote against Trump. Don't fall for it. These aren't "lefties" or "tankies". Just downvote, report, and ignore.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

They’re insane if the think I wouldn’t crawl over 5 miles of glass covered in diarrhea to vote against christofascism, and the only way to vote against christofascism is by voting for the side with the best chance to claim its victory, and much to my chagrin that’s Biden, it’s a really simple calculus

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Getting deported during his second term might be a good thing

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

So where are all the "concerned Democrats" that always show up en masse to talk about how horrible Biden's Gaza policy is?
Aren't you guy's concerned about this policy too? Or is it fine because it's not Biden's policy?

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[-] Dreizehn@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago

I always said President Biden is the lesser of the two evils. Mango Mussolini should shove off to fucking Moscow.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

thanks again republicans for reminding us that expression of grievances is basically communism

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

He's trying to appeal to Democrats now?

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, he's just a grifting pos who will say anything to anyone willing to give him a dollar.

Btw I'm still waiting on that answer, champ.

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[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 40 points 6 months ago

When you are more anti Biden than anti Trump, you are effectively pro Trump.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

If you would like to go there, let's. When you're more anti-criticism than you are anti-genocide, you are pro-genocide.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago
[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago

What's your source on Pro Palestinian students being deported by Biden?

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

How are any Pro Palestinian protesters getting deported by either? Neither can. Just another boogeyman scare.

[-] reddwarf@feddit.nl 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Just another boogeyman scare

This comment is on the same level as "just locker room talk".

One is not doing what he needs to be doing, Biden. The other, trump, straight up talks about fascism and dictatorship every single day, for months now.

You are making this a 'both sides' issue it seems to me and that is wrong. You know it is wrong, I will assume you are not brain dead, so it begs the question: why do you downplay of what trump is telling you what he will do? Do you have some secret info on trump you want to share with us or should we just go ahead and listen to the guy and go with 'he means that'?

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[-] Bipta@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

How are any Jews getting put in internment camps? Hitler can't. Just another boogeyman scare.

Next:

Okay so they put them in camps, but it's not like they can just kill them.

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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 13 points 6 months ago

So you're saying tRump is lying?

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

Trump is going to COOK your BABY and EAT them!!! Biden will merely roast the child but not consume it. LESSER EVIL!!!

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