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[-] phario@lemmy.ca 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Women also make up 50% of PC video game players and 54 percent of mobile game players.

I find a lot of these figures really hard to believe, to be honest.

Looking at the link, there is little I can find about their methodology.

[-] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It looks like the data comes from Statista. After a quick google, they look to be credible. Though, they require a business solutions license to see the source, which is a cool $490.

In other words, looks legit imho.

[-] Andy 29 points 1 year ago

I understand being skeptical, but there's no reason it should be hard to believe...

[-] Greenskye@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Sims is pretty popular and the main version everyone plays is PC only, but can be run on laptops and other low end PCs. There are a lot of 'I only play Sims' people out there. Could account for some of the numbers

[-] nachom97@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

50% of video game players makes sense to me, depending on what you count as a video game player. If, say, it was anyone who’s played any video game in the last year, I believe be about right. Sims, among us, the dinosaur game in chrome, wordle, etc. it adds up

Men probably dedicate more time to gaming and make it a bigger part of our lives, hence why it would seem more common.

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Few years ago I changed my nick on PSN because I coudn't stand my old one anymore. I choose a name that sounded feminine to say the least. Unicorns and shit, don't ask. So naturally people thought I was a gurl or at least super gay. I felt the change of behavior immediately.

In Destiny 2 alone I got revived way more often. People went out of their way to run across the open world map just to get to me. Damsel needed rescue I guess. I got a lot of invitations to Raids "Hey, we are LFG and we can explain everything to you if you want to". I got these messages while standing arround the main hub. Doing nothing. While wearing the Raid exclusive Exotic on my character for everyone to see (fucking Eyes Of Tomorrow is almost as big as my char). I got called "bitch" and "slut" many times...come to think of it, that wasn't new. Party invitations out of nowhere, chat invitations out of nowhere.

In Warframe some guy gave me an item for half the price for no apparent reason, after that he send me a chat invitation, I declined and he send me a PN wishing I would get raped. Another one I thought was afk in a mission, but no. He was just typing a message to me: "Hey, how are you doing? You new to Warframe?" Again, me jumping around in a highly optimized Nekros/Atterax build...

Sooooo online gaming is full of psychos. I didn't question that but it was then when I fully understood how bad it was. There are a lot of women playing games, some even play Call of Whatever is cool atm. They just stay quiet and play eighter with friends or with other women. There are nerds out there who are beyond insufferable.

[-] balrogslayer@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

When I was about 13 or 14, I revealed to my WoW friend (who I'd been playing with for months) that I was a girl and within a day he went from being my cool friend to someone who was offering me raid gear in exchange for talking dirty to him through Ventrilo.

Nearly 20 years later and I refuse to let anyone in on my gender. It's dehumanizing that we can't even play a game without being harassed.

[-] LFR@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I often play female characters and occasionally have the same experienced.

Recently i started a new game, someone helped me with something that I thought would take like two minutes, but it went on and on and he was friendly and helped me further. When we were finished after at least an hour, he said something which made it obvious he thought that I was a woman. I corrected him and he said "oh, lol" and immedeatly left the group. So fucking weird.

It's also funny to me because i never even look at usernames, neither in games or reddit, lemmy, etc. don't know why, but I just skip over it. So I don't even come to think who the person might be. Only when I'm in a group and have adress someone specifically I read what the names are.

[-] Silentiea@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

The only time I look at usernames is when someone says "thanks for the advice cumspanker3000" or something like that

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[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

I typically use masculine names when playing multiplayer games to avoid most of the misogyny. I also pretend I'm mute so I don't have to use a mic.

[-] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this is sadly how men are treated differently irl as well

edit: point proven

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

The comments: No way, women don't play games. I never see them.

Yeah no, they might not be on your games. But having seen the sheer lust for Link, I'm not surprised switch is popular.

And the crazy thing is, the industry really doesn't do a good job at this. The numbers could really be higher, especially mobile, but the sheer number of male fantasy waifu games out there is ludicrous. (Although, unsurprisingly, the dollars earned from whales are overwhelming male, especially internationally where the wage gap is higher, so that's what drives that).

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that a lot of women have bad experiences with online gamer guys being sexist assholes, so they might not want to call attention to themselves.

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[-] gerbler@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It's pretty clear that games being male oriented has been somewhat of a self-fullfilling prophecy for decades. Publisher's and manufacturers have pretty much exclusively targeted young males and so it shouldn't surprise anyone that they historically made up the bulk of the market as a direct result.

It's honestly embarrassing how long it's taken for that mindset to shift when there's an obvious financial disincentive to perpetuating it.

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[-] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

so many comments in disbelief lol, almost like gaming is more accessible now hmmmmm

[-] Epicurus0319@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago
[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Yay equal sexism and racism for everyone! Hope they can get past the bold asshats that feel secure being behind the internet. The mute feature in many games is extremely handy. I still get people in my dota games being extremely sexist when a women speaks

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Been playing multiplayer games since I was a kid, I'm in my 30s now, I am loooong past the point of ever playing any online game without automuting everyone unless I know them. I'm utterly done with letting loudmouth shitheads ruin my enjoyment. Even games where they substitute an in-game chat with some emote bullshit, I mute those too.

One of the things I like about LoL Wild Rift on mobile is that they have a detailed ping system so you don't have to use the in-game chat (because it's on phones). It's so much nicer than PC LoL. The games move faster, so no one has the time to pull up the touch keyboard and harass you.

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[-] Nikki@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago
[-] goomby69@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Me too! But I still avoid voice chat... :P

[-] wren@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

Ugh same. The number of gross comments I've gotten on vc over the years is enough to fill a book.

I'm mainly on PC now though, playing single player games or games with my fiancée and/or friends

[-] Silentiea@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I just avoid pvp or most multiplayer.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I’m seeing indie projects like BattleBit where they’re taking a very hardline stance towards voice toxicity, and I’m curious if that environment change could ever make it feel like a safer space to speak.

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[-] tuna_casserole@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago

Wow I'm a little surprised it's grown so much so fast.

I guess anecdotally it's not terribly surprising? 30s. Busy af. However my gf has been straight dragging me through Terraria, Cosmoteer, and seems like Battle Bit soon. She had a lot more flexibility with her schedule so I'm just trying to keep up.

Weird but awesome

[-] bibliotectress@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I (F) have always played video games (started with the NES and AD&D games on PC) because my dad had bought them for my brother, and they were fun. Nearly all of my female friends in junior high played N64 games along with our male friends, but now having friends in my upper 30s, very few of them play video games unless they're on mobile. And even if they do play mobile games, it's not Stardew Valley. It's the shitty ones that come pre-installed or they found through ads on Facebook. There are a few from my junior high nerd bubble that I'm sure still play, but I keep it on the DL at work because everyone is mostly frustrated with their husbands and kids and how much time they sink into games. They're judgy about it. I've started occasionally admitting I play games, but feel like I have to say we play them as a family, and relate it to board games.

The article surprises me. Although my daughter had tons of friends to play with online during the pandemic, so maybe it's more zoomers and 20-somethings?

[-] tuna_casserole@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I get the productivity shame as well. Like if I mention a game I play, then someone is piping up with a fence they fixed or something etc etc.

It seems like you're getting your femininity attacked as well which seems so strange. I just thought we would've learned by now. Like in our generation (looks like we started at the same time) I was teased (to say the least) a lot for my "nerdy" interests but now it's like most of it is vogue. It's dumb that we would repeat that with a specific gender.

I don't know if it's of any use but the majority of my lady friends game. Thru mostly also tend to be quiet about it unless nudged. That is to say that you're not weird, just awesome.

[-] bibliotectress@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Your comment is so kind! Thank you!!! And you're right, I've never really thought about it like that, but it DOES feel like my femininity is attacked! It's easy to wave off the incel "tHeRe ArE nO wOmEn On ThE iNtErNeT" comments that I don't come across as much anymore, but from people I know face-to-face, it gets to me. At least enough to avoid the topic. I'm sure there are a lot of women like me all hiding that we play video games!

It's not fair that you're getting the productivity shame either. The people who do that are usually the same people that are like, "Have you seen the latest 5 different series that have dropped on Netflix? I watched them all last weekend."

Oh well. I feel like it'll only get more socially acceptable to spend our free time however we want! It can only go up from here!

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[-] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 14 points 1 year ago

The irony of the company that picked boys over girls having the majority of their users being girls

[-] cloudpunk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Glad to see the gate keeping came with us.

I've played wow (MMOs tend to be popular with women, my guild has several women), overwatch, and am playing diablo now. Call of duty just looks kinda boring to me. I also play alot of single player games.

[-] Callie@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago

I can totally see why we’re more attracted to MMOs. Even male players are playing as women so it’s way easier for us to blend in. It’s also not really voice reliant so there isn’t an indication that we are women. Along with just typically having way more content we can do solo

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[-] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

It's cool to see the numbers and warms my heart to know that everyone is enjoying games.

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

You read it here, video games are for girls. Now stop playing games and get to work. /s

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Well, my gf uses more my switch than I, so yeah.

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[-] NinjaYeti76@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

My wife loves her Nintendo switch and so does my daughter. I also played Diablo 4 with my wife which is amazing. I'm all for more women playing games. I don't have to hide by myself in a room playing video games anymore. It's just a normal part of my family. There are many benefits to women playing games beyond what I just mentioned obviously.

[-] Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

I can't quite find where it is, but there is a Wikipedia article about percentage of female gamers around different parts of the world. I can remember FPS players was few, only about 10%, in Japan more Women play games, and in average it was indeed around 50%. And this number was from years ago.

[-] Default_Defect@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Women play games huh? Name 3 women, I'll wait.

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