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[-] Metz@lemmy.world 133 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the court accused him of an “ideology of maximum privacy.”

In what twisted fucked up crazy world is that a bad thing?

I hate this timeline..

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[-] ced225be4a26@sopuli.xyz 114 points 1 year ago

The same logic should apply to manufacturers whose products are used in committing a crime...

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Uhh really hope that's sarcasm...

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I dunno. If you manufacture tools designed specifically for killing, for example, you've definitely played a part in somebody's use of your tools for killing.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago

I can't think of many examples. Maybe electric chairs and guillotines.

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

Military weapons, which should be banned lol.

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[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

You've never heard of guns?

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[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That logic they're using should be burned with fire.

With that logic, cars being highjacked for a crime should make the company liable for the crime (Revolutionary actions would also count as crimes). That gives car manufacturers alot more legal reason for adding kill switches to their vehicles' engines, which would most likely be used by cops for whatever the fuck they want.

How about DJI's drones being used to kill individuals in Ukraine? Steam decks are currently also being used by Ukraine to control machine gun turrets remotely, and they're able to be used that way explicitly because they use regular OS's (a major boon to its users.)

This type of regulation would only further lead to anti-consumer products, and a stronger police state.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 year ago

By this logic DARPA should be put on trial for creating TOR

[-] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago

By this logic every locksmith should be put on trial for making locks, every manufacturer of vaults and safes, every lumber company for making wood used in fences, every costume designer for making halloween masks, every post office for renting PO boxes... etc.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago
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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That would be the story if a lifetime

[-] myself@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago
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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 85 points 1 year ago

Looks like development of such things will have to start happening on the dark web. What a ridiculous conviction.

In its judgement, the court accused him of an “ideology of maximum privacy.”

What the fuck is this kind of reasoning? Is privacy illegal now?

Anti Commercial-AI license

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[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Absolutely disgusting. Privacy is a right!

[-] uriel238 49 points 1 year ago

Due to its mode of operation, the court considered the software to be “specifically intended for criminals”

Crime is an action a state doesn't like, not necessarily wrong or evil, but serves interests other than the state. If the state has to authorize everything, then the state is favoring dominance over governance.

When the state has to monitor all transactions it is tyranny.

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 38 points 1 year ago

So they throw vendors of knives in jail too?

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How is that a privacy tool?

I think you meant vendors of safes.

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[-] ricdeh@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Hopefully, not all is lost. He has appealed and hopefully a greater authority will overturn this ruling.

[-] mr_satan@monyet.cc 6 points 1 year ago

Where could I follow up on this story?

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This article was posted by a MEP of the pirate party. You can follow him on mastodon.

https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer

[-] sem@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

That is absolutely crazy. I wish the strength to go through that for Alexey Pertsev!

[-] uis@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago
  1. Dutch court convicts engieneer, not Dutch engieneer gets convicted.
  2. I wouldn't be surprised if Dutch court wants to say that he should have stayed in Russia and supported Putin's war.
[-] kn98@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago

Dutch court convicts engieneer, not Dutch engieneer gets convicted.

Honest question, what do you mean by this? What’s the difference really?

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[-] rymdlord@feddit.nu 19 points 1 year ago

Thank fuck for the PirateParty!🏴‍☠️

Anti Commercial AI thingyCC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[-] alexdeathway@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

About the licence, how are you going to prove that your data was indeed used in training a Model ?

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 year ago

My best guess for the hopeful outcome is the ai starts tacking on the license magic words at the end of things it says... But ultimately it feels like a digital version of sovereign citizens to me.

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[-] refalo@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not enforceable in any way, it's just virtue signaling. Lemmy itself is a privacy dumpsterfire. GDPR compliance is literally impossible.

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

This happens with cash too. If you take in a bunch of cash, you have a duty to know what it's from so that you're not facilitating terrorism or crime or subverting sanctions. In fact, of you handle cash or finance, you generally have to take training on these laws every year.

This thing is the definition of money laundering and was known for exactly those problems.

[-] grandma@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

There are reasons to use this service that are completely legal. They should sentence the people laundering money, not the people providing privacy tools that happen to be misused.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 8 points 1 year ago

There's no reason people using tornado wouldn't have to disclose their sources to the authorities, same as cash.

But it does protect them from malicious actors.

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[-] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

money laundering is a big bad no-no word that THEY have stigmatized (conditional brainwashing) in order to get every day people to SUPPORT their regime of THEFT and CONTROL.

"You are trying to keep your money to yourself and stop us from seeing it so that we can't steal some of it and punish you for using it how you like??? You're a MONEY LAUNDERER. Money laundering Money laundering Money laundering"

When you control money, you control minds, livelihoods, and monopolize fear itself.

[-] ganymede@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

its not the actual money laundering they object to.

it's that they didn't get a cut.

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[-] to55@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago
[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wasn't the arrest over a year ago? How much time is left on the sentence?

This is terrible, but 5 years is pretty tolerable. Assange is in locked up for being a journalist and faces life in tortuous conditions.

Also, write your MEP and vote pirate party.

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