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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 121 points 2 years ago

Capybaras are classified as fish in Catholic canon law, on the grounds that they spend their lives in water. I’m guessing that a party of conquistadors was on the verge of starvation and got their priest to petition the Vatican to issue a retroactive ruling in their favour.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago

Iirc, both Jewish and Islamic law are explicit that if you can break kosher/eating halal if you have no other options for food. Keeping yourself alive is more important.

Is there not something similar in catholic theology?

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago

In Catholic doctrine you can break literally all rules except denouncing the holy spirit, if you confess and repent afterwards.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I’m kinda tempted to go to a catholic priest, tell them my full life story and see if they could even come up with penance for me. Like as a gay trans man, I imagine I’d be told to detransition but I’m far enough along that I can’t really go back - I’m not even sure what they’d consider a sin at this point.

[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The current pope is pretty lenient towards LGBTQ+ compared to most other religions and especially compared to old school Catholic pope's. Jesus was a man of peace and the current pope seems to think that was his ultimate message for mankind.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Careful, priest might get his scissors out

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Not a Catholic but fairly knowledgeable about the religion. I believe your transition would be accepted as long as you don't live in sin by performing any acts of sodomy. The Catholics study theology relentlessly, and I'm sure they already had a way of dealing with the fair number of intersex babies born without dooming them to a life spent in unintentional sin.

The church has never expressed an issue with homosexuality, only homosexual acts. And even those acts aren't a sin due to the homosexual intent, they're a sin because of the sodomy.

Remember though, sodomy is a blanket term here for "sex acts not capable of producing children" so for you that would be... All of them I suppose.

I suspect that the suggested answer would be the one they give to all gay men, for you to live as a man, but be celibate. Devote your life to God, maybe even become a monk back in the old days. A lot of monks were "confirmed bachelors"

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

You can save yourself from all of them, there is no irredeemable sin in any Christ based faith. Only ones that need more explaining, hedging and tithing than others.

[-] yannic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

There are temporal consequences of sin, even after guilt is removed.

[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I broke all 10 commandments and I ate meat during lent. My bad. How many hail Marys do I owe you?

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[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

What what? Are you saying I can denounce "the holy spirit" and no catholic ever gets to bother me again? Not even theoretically? That is great! Also, woud the church become sinners themselves if they know about one of their members denouncing and they proceed to collect church tax? Nice loophole if ;)

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Fun fact: you stay a Catholic when you announce that you are leaving the church, and even when the pope excommunicates you. According to the church, there's no way to leave once you've been baptized.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

That sounds like the kind of abusive hostage situation that we westerners tend to associate with Islam, with no formal way to get out. Interesting, TIL...

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

You're always a sinner anyway in catholics.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Putting on my miter, crossing my arms stubbornly, and whispering "This is the way" as I shrivel up into an emaciated string bean.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

If you want to get really technical, in Jewish theory there's an argument in the Talmud or Mishrad that says that as long as the dish is less than 1/16 or 1/32 (something like that,) of the non halal meat, then it can be considered kosher as well

I'm not Jewish, I just studied religions for a while. Someone who is Jewish can correct me on the proper percentage

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I am Jewish, but the only way I will correct you is by saying it's a bunch of centuries-old religious nonsense that has nothing to do with actual nutritional science.

[-] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

I don't have a source for this but I had been told it was in an attempt to try to convert Venezuelans to Catholicism

[-] owsei@programming.dev 20 points 2 years ago

You don't like the religion?

Here, we made the big dog a fish, are you happy now?

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

If I were a 16-17th century South American and you turned a big dog into a fish, yeah... I'd probably be willing to believe in your God.

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[-] otter@lemmy.ca 111 points 2 years ago

Huh so apparently it's because of Latin?

Quoting an old comment

Fish isn't considered meat because English and Latin are slightly different languages. For hundreds of years Catholics were not allowed to eat meat on Friday. But the language of the church is Latin, and what Catholics were not allowed to eat is 'carne' which is the flesh of creatures from the land or the sky. So fish was fine.

http://jimmyakin.com/2005/02/fish_fridays.html

[-] yannic@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 years ago

Also. around the mediterrainian, fish is a food staple of the poor. The point is to eliminate excess.

I'd argue that an inlander ordering fish at a fancy restaurant on a Friday during Lent is not following the spirit of the law (which can be more of a discipline than a rule, depending on the local episcopal authority), especially if it's not a special occasion and the fish was caught hundreds of kilometers away.

[-] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago

The inlander could eat freshwater fish like trout or carp, no fancy saltwater fish.

[-] yannic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

The point has been missed.

[-] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago

Sorry, I thought it was clear: there was and is also fish ‘Inland’ that is poor people’s food.

[-] onion@feddit.de 67 points 2 years ago

You can also cover the meat in pasta dough so god doesn't see it

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago

Similar energy to drinking in a dimly lit bar makes sure Allah doesn't see you drinking so it's fine lol

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

For lent, beaver counts as fish

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

Thats the pickup line I use on devout catholics.

[-] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, the beaver reacharound

Save the poophole loophole for 2nd date

[-] DaDragon@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

Fish: live in water

Beavers: also live in water

checks out

[-] Sythas@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

Some monks also drowned their pigs. They lived in the water until they died, so they are fish

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[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Some birds live in water... even though they are creatures of the sky...so is duck ok for lent?

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[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's even a blonde, green-eyed jesus. Where?

[-] Maultasche@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Is there already a !beetlejuicing on a lemmy instance?

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