This conversation is held daily over in the echo chamber known as !conservative@lemm.ee
Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.
Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.
So just like the old subreddit then? Weird how that piece of culture sticks with them.
The difference is that on Reddit I got suspended from the entire site for "report abuse" because I (correctly) reported misinformation in r/conservative and it hurt the snowflake mods' fee-fees.
In other words, Lemmy is structurally superior because there are no fascist admins with the power to ban you from the entire network.
Lmao, I reported genocidal comments in r/worldnews and was site banned for the same reason.
I had 4 reports total, 2 were acted on and the other 2 were pretty blatant calls to violence.
It's actually what made me quit Reddit.
For my "worldnews" ban, I called someone out for ONLY posting pro-israel content, from biased Israeli media sources, and how every comment under all their posts that disagreed were downvoted into oblivion 😅
The upvote/downvotes for my comment were shifting by dozens of votes in both directions for DAYS. It was hilarious
Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.
Im gonna speedrun a ban rq
Tell them I sent you. That'll probably be enough to get you banned for "Ban Evasion" because they think somebody's running a sock puppet thing or whatever. I don't know, I was permanently banned for that reason when I pointed that Obama actually WASN'T separating children from their parents under a blanket policy at the border. Being right really triggers them.
20 minutes from my first post there LMAO
It's full of bad faith arguments, putting rules before humanity, the strictest possible interpretation of those rules, and they LOVE to put words in your mouth or waste your time asking for resources that they won't read and will just respond "What are you even talking about?" because they've already moved the goal posts. Their newest mod spent his first hour as a mod getting in fights about Hunter Biden's laptop and is so vehemently against tax increases because he's one of the rich whose taxes would probably go up. He'll gladly tell you that the rich are already paying TOO MUCH and they wouldn't benefit from paying more.
But, hey, at least they ban the R word and homophobia.
I can understand conservatism at a base level. While it's not something I agree with, I can see why people would lean towards it, and respect that people have different political beliefs.
However, as someone in Europe...what most Americans believe is conservatism would be very right-wing anywhere else in the developed world. If anything, many conservatives in Europe are at odds with the rise of the right, as populism has pushed traditional conservatism out of the conservative parties. In the UK, Boris Johnson literally kicked many conservatives out of the conservatives for not backing him on a Brexit vote, leaving the current PM Rishi Sunak looking at an election wipeout AND basically no MP's remaining that believe in what the party was originally about.
I feel for those that have lost their party, because it basically means that the likes of Trump (win or lose) will likely mean few people that can continue their beliefs in their primary party.
I don't feel sorry for the people who "lost" their party. To start, it was never a good party to begin with and for the final nail in the coffin, they didn't fucking fight very hard to not lose it, did they?
I can still remember how the news in fucking Germany changed. Suddenly, once Biden was in office, we didn’t get US politics in our evening news multiple times per week anymore. The United States became silent again.
Make America Boring Again
I long for the days when I thought government was boring and not worth my time. I know too much now too go all the way back, but it's refreshing to have someone just quietly running the nation without starting a shitstorm every time their ego gets a little bit bruised.
It was always worth your time. The whole boomer mentality of not talking about politics is how we got into this mess.
But I'm glad you're with us now. The sane need all the help we can get.
Look at all these fucking Russian/MAGA trolls in the comments trying to play a "both sides" thing.
I was there. I lived through both. You can go fuck yourself. Like trump.
There's a visibly coordinated effort to trash Biden and/or democrats on lemmy. The commentary is all the same. They use some form of "both sides" blaming both democrats and republicans for being awful while attacking voting for either. They focus hard on Israel and call Biden "Genocide Joe" or some similar derogatory term. Overall, they always pick at Biden's policy completely devoid of nuance while never discussing Trump's policies past or planned. I got several posts removed from /world calling out such similar comments.
Conversely, every single time someone makes a legitimate criticism of Biden or the Democratic establishment (and there are many to be made), someone dismisses it as "both sides".
Democrats are undoubtedly better than Republicans. Biden is undoubtedly better than Trump. Both parties are still corrupted by mega-donors and entrenched elitism.
If Trump wins, he will outright ban the Democratic Party, if not at least make it SUPREMELY difficult for the party to be changed in any significant way for the better. I will only vote for Biden to buy a little more time in which for the more progressive wings of the Democratic Party to act. Technically, there's nothing stopping our government from just Thanos snapping a party out of existence. I really would not want to see Trump snap his fingers and suddenly the only party with the means to oppose him just stops existing. And before you say the DNC doesn't have the means to oppose Trump and the GOP, they absolutely do have the means. They have all the tools they need to stop them. The will to use those tools? That's what the DNC is sorely lacking. This is because the party is suffused with neoliberals and their bullshit that MUST be called out and pushed out. Unfortunately these neolibs also have a lot of money, something something the more progressive members of the Party are lacking.
Like, I know Biden is not that great, but at least the slow collapse of the country isn't being put in your face every day like it was with Trump.
I can't think of a single other president in my 32 years on this planet that I can say that the end of their time in office acutely improved my mental health.
I'm pretty old. Biden has been the best president of my lifetime.
He should be viewed as a national hero for beating Donnie in 2020 and making it stick, which was probably harder than it looked. The US President starting a coup has lots of strings to pull.
I genuinely think that the only reason so many people aren't able to admit that is because of Gaza.
I deduct credit from a President if they are primarily fixing problems that they themselves caused or greatly assisted in creating throughout their previous political career. In Biden's case, that means that he is unlikely to get better than absolute neutral due to his incredibly long history of selling out the American people.
I will not give Biden an 11th hour passing grade just because he is up against Trump, he doesn't deserve to be graded on a curve.
I totally agree, but I also think that every president for the last 50+ years would have walked out of office and into a prison cell in a just world. Judged in that context, Biden looks pretty good.
Also, a ham sandwich would have beaten Trump in 2020. I know this because half the Biden supporters on Reddit were constantly paving over Biden's deep flaws by pointing out that they would pick a ham sandwich over Trump. I have no idea why it was always a ham sandwich. All Biden had to do was hide in his basement and not say anything mind-blisteringly stupid. That and avoid catching COVID from Trump on the debate stage.
Yes OK, but apart from all that, what has Biden ever done?
Reminds me of Monte pythons the life of Brian
Apparently he personally killed thousands of Palestinian babies. /s
"You don't think this is a result of decades long fucked up relationship between US and Israel, driven by almost all political and administrative entities from both DNC and GOP, and not just Biden?"
"yOu ArE gEnOcIdE eNaBlEr!!11!"
I’m ready to get past trump so we can stop talking about trump. His cluster B narcissism is loving all this attention. Can’t wait to never hear about the fucker
First we gotta make sure he isn't president again. Or else it'll be a long time before anyone will be able to forget him.
As someone who takes crazy pills every day, I am highly insulted that you associate me with the Trump administration.
Furthermore, my nipples are in tune with God and tweaking them will grant you his holy message.
I think the middle person is living on the military grade hopium where there's bound to be a revolution that solves everything, it's just around the corner too. So why bother trying to get small wins or even slow down the worsening conditions. Revolution will fix everything.
Any day now...
Everybody thinks they'll come out on top after a "revolution" but they almost certainly will not. Such chaos is far more likely to help than hurt fascists. That's kind of their jam.
This video is about 2020 in general, but it really encapsulates the news style Trump fostered. Just a firehose of garbage that overwhelms the senses. And it's only gotten worse.
Like how do people like that exist with themselves all with coming up with an opinion and just not researching it let alone questioning it for a second just to be debased in a matter of seconds. And that’s giving them the benefit of the doubt. Deep down I think they are trolling.
i know you hate to hear this but its all symbolic cherrypicked stuff.
did he stop the concentration camps for mexicans at the border? or the genocide in gaza? did he rollback anything that matters?
democrats always pretend to be doing shit since i remember, but don't actually get anything done at all. then republicans inevitably come and push the country further into fascism, rinse repeat.
Nah. Vote for Biden. Then carry that momentum to enact change.
Not sure why so many of you folks just scream "AH, BOTH BAD. NO VOTE." and run away babbling into the distance.
There is that legitimate third choice where we continue to push after the election. Biden has shown he will listen. Seems like a plan.
AH, BOTH BAD. NO VOTE.
i literally didnt say this. we are not saying this.
Nah. Vote for Biden. Then carry that momentum to enact change.
i vote for the leftmost candidate i can, dunno where you get the impression i dont. i just dont pretend they are giving me any momentum because the leftmost in this specific case is still a right wing genocidal maniac.
come join me at any revolutionary leftist organization, or a good union if you truly want to enact actual change. this is the momentum we need, participating in the theather wont make that much difference.
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