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How do you say SUSE? (m.youtube.com)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by barbara@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I always thought those whoe said susa instead of soos are wrong.

Suse stands for "Software und System-Entwicklung" https://linuxiac.com/opensuse/

Edit: Yes, she can still be wrong but then it's supported by the rest of susa's staff https://youtu.be/RsME20zXbQI&t=13

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[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 8 months ago

Nginx. I pronounced it N-Jinx.

I never in a million years would have guessed it was “Engine X”.

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[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 42 points 8 months ago

Funny except the video's pronunciation is wrong since it is a German name for a company founded in Germany.

[-] barbara@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

So it's a joke by suse themself?

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 36 points 8 months ago

English pronunciation seems more like a joke by the makers of the English language itself.

[-] palordrolap@kbin.social 18 points 8 months ago

English is an open-source project with no overarching plan and several major variants that has had literally millions of contributors over thousands of release cycles per branch. There's bound to be some cruft in the code.

Anyone who suggests reform is enacting that one xkcd about standards. And no-one will use their variant except for a few enthusiasts who think it's the best thing since sliced silicon.

[-] federalreverse@feddit.de 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The marketing idiots who published this are Americans. The pronunciation is borderline correct but not quite.

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[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 18 points 8 months ago

so, to summarize:

  • German: /suse/ or /zuze/
  • English: should be /suse/ but more often /susa/ but definitely not /sus/
[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago

AMOGUS!!!! AMOGUS!!!! SUS-e AMOGUS!

[-] Knuschberkeks@feddit.de 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

funny, but wrong. The e is pronounced like first e in Mesmerized.

Edit: Spelling

[-] k-tec@kbin.social 16 points 8 months ago

Back in the days when it was first released, I'm sure I read that it should be pronounced "Susie". That's the way I've always said it.

[-] pragmakist@kbin.social 16 points 8 months ago

It's German, and you're about as right as anyone trying to say a German word in English can expect to get.

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[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 8 months ago

Like 'Susie', which according to the rest of this thread, puts me in the minority

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[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

What is with Linux projects and confusingly pronounceable names? Even the name “Linux” itself has a fair bit of spoken variation.

Then there’s Ubuntu, and GNOME with the hard G to name a few.

[-] federalreverse@feddit.de 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

SUSE originated in Germany, where it's just the normal pronunciation. "Suse" also pre-existed as a nickname for "Susanne" (of course, the company name was derived from an acronym which isn't used anymore).

The issue comes in when non-Germans, especially English-language natives try to pronounce the word. English pronunciation is incredibly inconsistent. Hence English speakers tend to fail (very confidently) when pronouncing foreign-language words.

(Fwiw, Germans and many others don't know anything about the silent G in "gnome" and will happily pronounce GNOME the way the project intends without being told. Similar things are true for the I in Linux.)

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[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

If I hear a YouTuber pronounce it Lynux it immediately makes me skeptical of whatever they have to say

Unless it's satire of course

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[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I guess Linux projects tend to come from around the world, instead of US boardrooms and marketing desks.

Linux is Finnish, SUSE is German, so is KDE, Ubuntu is South African, GNOME is Mexican (?).

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago

I pronounce gnome like it should be pronounced, "gnome".

It is dumb to pronounce the g

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[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Like "X", who would have thought it was pronounced "Twitter"?

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[-] Penta@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago
[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That dude is totally wrong. SUSE is a german company.

[suse]

  • z one
  • b oo ze
  • z one
  • v a cation

By accident, here is a video about bavaria and SUSE

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

The vacation one is a bad example because some people say vuhkation and some say vaykaytion. From the germans I know the E on the end is like uh, like how they say bitte, danke, etc

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[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

SUSE has German origins, but nowadays it is technically a Luxembourgish multinational.

[-] 737 21 points 8 months ago

a company based in Luxembourg is practically a German company evading taxes

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago

Its from SUSE, the company

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[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 8 months ago

I HATE this video irrationally

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

I don't care. It's Soos. It's Ace-SUS, not Ah-soos. It's I-Key-Ah, not E-Kay-Ah. These are the way everyone around me says these things for as long as I can remember.

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 8 months ago

That's about as accurate as if I was adamant that the USA was not pronounced yoo-ess-ey, but ooh-sha, like everyone around me said it for as long as I can remember.

Non-anglophone countries exist, and there are actually more of them with more people than anglophone countries, and most of these projects come from non-anglophone countries.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

Non-Anglophone countries are free to exist and are free to pronounce things however they want. I would be looked at as if I had two heads if I pronounced those things like those non-Anglophone countries. It's about not wanting to be treated like I'm a idiot just for pronouncing things the "proper" way.

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[-] Logh@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago
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[-] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I have a rule about acronyms: if the spelling makes sense to be said as a word, I follow the English grammatical rules. A word that's spelled s-u-s-e would be pronounced "soos", so that's what I say.

This is why I don't pronounce GNU as "ga-noo", it doesn't make sense as a word. In those cases, I just spell them out.

[-] onion@feddit.de 14 points 8 months ago

GNU [...] doesn't make sense as a word

That's a joke right?

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

GNU like Gnu, I dont see the problem?

Edit: oh damn english people cant pronounce that?

Here, dict.cc has lots of spoken examples

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[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 8 points 8 months ago
[-] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 7 points 8 months ago

Don't get me started. For years people corrected me when I said LEE-nooks instead of Lennox. I finally gave up.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I get "Lie-nooks", but who says "Lennox"?

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[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 months ago

"Lainus Torvolds"

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[-] Cwilliams@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago

The Linux Cast says soo-suh, so that's what I'm going to say

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[-] hactar42@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago
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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

You pronounce it any way other than the way the person saying it does.

This results in a few possible outcomes.

The person may get an opportunity to go on at length about why their pronunciation is used, and be entertaining.

The person may get all het up about it, insisting that you're wrong, and you can further mess with them by shrugging and continuing to use whatever you were using.

The person doesn't care, and y'all have a nice conversation about distros and Linux in general.

The person switches to your pronunciation, and you now have a stalker.

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