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I can't wait for the gun advocates to come in here and say, "see? SEE?!?"
Except their gun laws are pretty permissive and from reading the article it seems like there were plenty of opportunities for that “good guy with a gun” to have stopped it before the police caught up with him.
They even could have excused it with the Castle Doctrine since he was breaking into homes.
Remind them that the same day as Sandy Hook there was a mass stabbing attack in a Chinese school. No one died. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing
Knives are less deadly than guns. These are all tragedies but they are not comparable in outcome.
Anecdotes aren’t science, though. So rely on the science that says guns are dangerous and don’t make us safer. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/
Browse around gun owners, you won’t be happy.
Nah, my go-to is the 2019 Dayton OH shooting.
Guy opens fire in a busy shopping district in front of police officers and still kills nine people and injures 17 others. From the first shot he fired until the police fatally shot him was 32 seconds. Twenty-six casualties in the best-possible scenario for police response.
GUNS. ARE. THE. FUCKING. PROBLEM.
Well, in a mass event, knives are overall less deadly because of the proximity requirement. But I’ll disagree that the knife is less deadly, when it can be employed correctly, because it can do much more damage to a single target.
Well, in a mass event, knives are overall less deadly because of the proximity requirement.
This is a very large part of the idea.
Yes… which it why I was pretty specific
This isn’t a point. Like think back on what you just said - it’s literally “well if you’re very close to someone a knife is pretty deadly”
Yeah well I guess that’s why guns are deadlier because you don’t have to be close and can stab lots of people with your high velocity mini-knives.
Every time some tactical pedant will come out of their bunker to educate us on how ackshuyally navy seals prefer knives to guns because they like the smell of blood and every time it’s worthless
I think you think I’m someone else. Maybe calm down and just take a comment for a comment
I think you made a nonsense false equivalency about guns and knives and then go hurt when it was called nonsense
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Son, you ever see an exit wound?
Bullets cause massively more damage than knives, internally.
This guy survived 35 stab wounds. I've never heard of someone surviving 35 gunshot wounds.
There are rappers who have been shot hundreds of times
Hundreds? By one person at one specific point?
I doubt both of those.
Yeah, so do I.
I can shoot you 35 times in the foot and you’ll live.
Ok but that guy wasn’t stabbed 35 times in the foot so your argument is really “if something totally different happened it might not be fatal.” Seems pretty not good, as far as arguments go
Except by 35 shots, there would only be a stump and I would bleed out and die.
Guns are more dangerous almost entirely because of range, in this scenario. If you get stabbed 35 times in the foot you will also be left with a stump and will bleed out.
It's a hell of a lot easier to get away from someone before they stab you 35 times than someone with a gun.
No, maybe using a small caliber with no expansion, but anything above like .32 acp is going to make a way bigger exit hole than entry hole. Getting stabbed is objectively way better for you.
This is a silly but entertaining conversation, so I will continue the circlejerk.
You must be thinking of a small knife, as well. Most knives, especially the ones typically best for stabbing, are large. A butcher knife is as wide as most peoples foot. A hunting knife, or a typical boot knife, is maybe have as wide. Someone's foot could be sliced off in like three or four stabs, at most.
I agree that getting shot once is going to be worse than getting stabbed once, most of the time, but we were talking about 35 times. I think we could just agree that your foot would be completely fucked and stumpy either way.
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Agreed, but that correct employment takes a lot of practice and training. I wonder if there's been studies on the level of "damage" vs the perpetrators training/experience in these mass casualty events.
I don’t think that a person who got to the point where they wanted to murder a room full of people would have the planning skills and patience to do it with a knife.
I wouldn't put it past a human to get to that point.... Especially in the society we've built. And it's possible they had it as a hobby, or are able to suffer through the training, practice, and planning without getting discovered. But likely they'd go with an easier option if available, like a gun, or an ied.
Guns also require less physical strength, coordination, and gives the user a sense of god-like power that a knife can’t.
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I considered it, but have decided to go with "I didn't know Reefer Madness was real."
This is why I stay home
Statistically, you are more likely to die at home than anywhere else.
Well yeah, cause that's where most people spend the majority of their time lol.
That's what I thought at first, but that number is actually global. For developed countries, it's only like 21%, and the most common location is the hospital. Conclusion: developed countries have better access to medical services so you go to the hospital for critical care, while in less developed countries you just go home and die.
What causes the death, and where that happens, is another question.
It's (probably) still true that you're most likely to get in a car accident near your home, but that is because that's where you do most of your driving.
Just never leave the Living Room
And stay the fuck out of the Dying Room.
But I spent all that time and money setting up the deadly obstacle course! If I don't use it from time to time, it will be a complete waste!
You can, I guess. But don't come crying to me if you're dead.
This guy broke into homes to stab people.
Justification for ownership of all the swords in my home.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I read your username as "dual spork" and thought this person knows how to defend their home.
But trust me, I am the champion at knifey-spoony.
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