"I still don't get why people spend money"
Because you want to support specific content creators and free isn't sustainable
Yeah, but for porn tho…
Just beat your meat to standard stuff or meet someone IRL, rather than developing some unhealthy attachment to someone on OF who’s exploiting your desperation.
I dunno, I guess if you just wanna pay for porn you like then it’s fine, but some people develop very unhealthy attachments/obsessions to supplement a real human connection.
It's no different than subscribing to twitch/YouTube creators. The content is just different. There are plenty of people with unhealthy obsessions that aren't related to porn.
You’re right, it’s the same as the lonely people being exploited by Twitch streamers or YT creators.
There’s a point it goes from “supporting a creator” to “throwing money at someone so they acknowledge your existence and you feel validated”.
Honestly part of the reason I stopped watching twitch, it’s just sad at a certain point as these people think they’re actually friends with the creator, rather than just enjoying the stream for what it is.
The whole donation/sub part of twitch culture is disgusting imo.
A better example would have been patreon. I’ve never given money to an online content producer of any kind (except my monthly donation to Wikipedia), but if there’s one thing the internet is good at, it’s crowdfunding. Gofundme, patreon, onlyfans, twitch, kickstarter… it’s all the same.
True, but I think the key difference is that one is an exchange of services, and the other is taking advantage of peoples desperation for a connection, whether that be a romantic connection or just friendship.
Satisfying physical urges with porn or supporting a twitch streamer you like is one thing, but these fake relationships between viewers and OF or twitch creators is wrong imo.
I feel like you're way off mark on this.
I subbed to a chick on Onlyfans because she's my type and I jerked off to her videos.
I would wager 95% + of the audience is just that, and not the "unhealthily obsessed" type that you are so hung up on.
Cases like Grant Amato have got to be the exception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Amato
Yeah, but for porn tho…
So what you're saying is sex workers aren't real workers and don't deserve to be paid. If that becomes true and no one pays for porn, GUESS WHAT: no more porn. It has to be profitable for the people doing it. It's not like art, the vast, vast majority aren't doing it because they love it. They're doing it for money.
[...] It's not like art, [...]
Nah, even if nobody paid for porn there would still be porn. In fact, there's already enough porn already made out there that we have enough to last us for centuries. But even disregarding what's already out there, people would still make porn for free because they want to show off and share their videos.
the vast, vast majority
Not to disagree with your main point - everyone deserves to be paid - but porn scales so well that we might already have enough free amateur production for everyone. It just doesn't get to the top of SEO-optimized searches.
we might already have enough free amateur production for everyone. I
You've seen significant amounts of porn produced and distributed that was made for fun and not monetized? I certainly haven't.
And if that were true, why would people still be paying for it now?
There's a parasocial aspect to onlyfans since you can dm the person, and they often take requests.
Porn and OF are essentially two separate things though.
Sex workers do work and they should be paid for it, because it’s just work. OF creators often exploit desperate peoples’ emotions to take their money.
People watch porn to beat their meat and satisfy a physical urge, whereas a lot of people subscribe to OF for a fake connection that only worsens and warps their view of a healthy relationship.
If you wanna pay for Brazzers then go for it, if you’re simping for an OF creator who’s happy to just take your money then that’s sad.
Buy local from small producers
There are 23 singles in your area
THATS A LOT OF TITS
(Plz read that in the voice of the nuts guy in Kung Pow)
Or make your own at home, it's cheaper and sustainable.
I still don't get why people spend money... there's tons of it for free
There are free video games. There are paid video games. Why do people pay for video games if free ones exist?
There's advantages to paying for video games, even single player such as cloud saves as one example. For multiplayer games you get online play with dedicated servers, rather than finding a workaround like LAN tunneling with pirated games.
You literally get nothing special from paying for porn.
You literally get nothing special from paying for porn.
You literally get the most special content by paying for porn, personalized content that's catered to your needs. That's literally why you pay for it.
Yes, if I just want to see regular old sex I can just go to one of the bazillion free sites out there. But if I have a specific fetish that only a few creators are doing, of course it's worth paying for it to support the production of said content, especially if their onlyfans allows requests.
I totally understand that the vast majority of people are more than satisfied with typical porn and won't ever feel the need to pay for it, but there's so much diversity out there that the regular porn sites can't get to it all, and that's why some people pay for it, because they really want to scratch a specific itch.
And before someone says you can just pirate it, trust me, some stuff you can't even find pirated. I've been there. Some creators go through very convoluted methods of distributing their content to deter piracy (especially with pricier tiers fans usually don't want to spread it to keep it exclusive to themselves).
That's fine if you're into vanilla porn, but if you have a fetish even slightly more niche than what they've got on ex: Kink.com, you're not going to find more than a handful of videos for free (unless you go with piracy but that's beside the point). And those will be digitized German VHS tapes. And will be out of focus. So in situations like that, paying for porn (or, paying to support creators that produce content you enjoy) becomes a lot more attractive as an option.
... not that I'd know anything about it first hand.
While I don’t disagree…. I’d just like to say, that if you pay enough for porn, you can get exactly what you’re looking for.
ROI isn’t worth it though.
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Piracy is a matter of convenience. Buying a game is more convenient than pirating it. You can watch pirated porn movies with a simple Google search.
Not quite OnlyFans, but when you have specific interests, you gotta find specific folks with skills tailored towards those interests.
Source: Close buddy of mine is a furry fetish artist. Not suspiciously wealthy, but he's full time drawing raptor asses.
I don't get the whole furry thing but sometimes I wish I had artistic talents because I would have no qualms getting paid to draw whatever degenerative crap people are into these days. Seems like a solid side hustle.
But… Raptors didn’t have fur 🧐
That's what you're hung up on? There's a whole subgenre of sharks with tits.
This. Also in real life, people with specific talents know they're rare and charge accordingly. Pornhub is full of average stuff and if that does it for you great (though I'd argue anyone considering themselves a 'porn addict' is unlikely to be satisfied with basic porn)
I still don't get why people buy books... there's ton of it at library
I mean ya, but not the book I wanted to read specifically.
FYI: your local library probably has a subscription to eBook software. And if you use that, do utilize it! Libraries often get more funding the more customers and utilization they have. And you can usually request certain books for your library to buy. That's really helpful for the librarians to figure out what their patrons want. Otherwise they often have to guess or just use national popular lists which might not fit as well.
But yeah, also buy books your library doesn't have.
Just like with video games, the people paying for it are what keeps the supply going for the freeloaders. They should grateful to them!
I think people don't pay for porn, people pay to be able to interact with the girl.
Especially with those with 1000s of subscribers - how are people fooling themselves into thinking that they don't have someone answering their messages for them?
Some of the most popular ones have whole crews for filming - why should social media be something they do on their own?
I kind of get it for the ones with few subscribers though
Our brains are highly effective at tricking us. And if a person is desperate for attention, they will fall into this trap. You're thinking rationally, but there's nothing rational about that in the right (or should I say wrong?) state of mind.
i dont get it either like why would you pay for porn when there are free porn?
I'm of the same sentiment but I don't judge people that pay for porn, after all without them paying for it there would be no money in the porn industry so as a consequence no porn either. Simply put I will never pay for porn but I'm glad that others do so I can feed my addiction.
It's good to support creators if you like what they're doing. I've supported Zishy in the past because they do high quality tasteful clothed/teasing photos of women who look like real women (not that there's anything wrong with bimbos/plastic surgery). If you appreciate what someone is doing, monetary support isn't unusual at all.
I've found the quality goes up with paid porn, ethical porn is easier to get, and is also less objectifying.
For example, there's a bit on the Upper Floor between Stefanos (the dom and main host) and Penny Barber (one of the subs in that session). Penny noticed that Stefanos was wearing french cuffs, which she really likes. The next time she was on, Stefanos was sure to wear french cuffs again. It didn't enhance the show's primary purpose, which is titillation. It was simply a sweet gesture.
Now, many Upper Floor scenes are available in part on PornHub and the like, but this is one interaction that's likely cut. Even if it's left in, you might not be able to piece the two together unless you watched the series in order, which would be hard to do on tube sites.
Kink.com in general has pre and post interviews on almost all their content, which you don't always see on PornHub. These often give personal insights into the people and the industry that may be cut out.
AdultTime and Bree Mills are also doing some interesting work putting more women into production roles behind the camera, and stressing consent.
Finally, there's a list of sites like crashpadseries.com that are also stressing ethical porn, and they tend to deliberately keep their stuff off of tube sites.
The only porn I would pay for is something bespoke that I had to specifically request be made.
Onlyfans is an oddity wrapped in an enigma. Not only is there a ton of free porn + all the porn one can torrent but there are dozens of free cam sites out there. I mean dead free! One can watch thousands of nude models nonstop.
There should be no reason to pay for onlyfans. Ever.
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