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[-] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago

Let's hope it's better than most Samsung products

[-] frezik@midwest.social 27 points 4 months ago

Their batteries are usually top notch. If you're hunting around for 18650 cells--which are notoriously bad for fake claims on Amazon and Aliexpress ("80,000mAh!!!!" when the best 18650 cells are closer to 3,500mAh)--a genuine Samsung cell is a safe bet.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago
[-] pahlimur@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Samsung was very transparent about their fuck up with the note 7. The article you linked makes it very clear it was a connection issue or a different manufacturer. At this point this is equivalent to the burn banana peels to get high or you eat dozens of spiders while you sleep internet lies.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

It's not a lie, they screwed up twice. I don't care if it was another manufacturer that screwed up, at the end of the day, Samsung is responsible for QA on anything they sell.

That said, they were very transparent (hence why I linked it). However, I still don't trust Samsung for other reasons:

They do make some high quality stuff, but I generally avoid them because I don't trust them (I do have a Samsung "dumb" TV, and I may get a Samsung washing machine). I don't think their batteries will explode again, but they'll probably do something like make it difficult for independent repair of their batteries. They're actually better than most in their phones, but that's a pretty low-value repair vs for cars.

[-] pahlimur@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Mostly agree, I hate Samsung in general (sent from Samsung Galaxy S22). Anytime I see someone considering their appliances or TVs I try to turn them to something else. They have made the best batteries for a long time though. I hope a competitor rises to squish them a bit.

Don't buy a sumsung washer. I only buy used washers and dryers because I'm cheap and handy. Samsung is not an option because a large part of the user market is broken in a way that costs the same as buying new.

I do sort of disagree with your QA comment. Everyone seems to think QA stops once you sell a product, but it doesn't. They did a full recall to fix their quality mistake. It'd be like if Tesla finally recalled all of the cybertrucks for sucking as much as they do. Massive PR hit to attempt to maintain quality.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Idk, this was after they were banned by the FAA, so I don't think it was a "PR hit to attempt to maintain quality," I think it was to stem the damage. The Note 7 was already in the news by that point, and 3 major airlines had already started telling passengers to turn off their Note 7s specifically. The second set of devices failed even when powered off.

Here's Time's timeline of events if you want to revisit it. I can understand the first not being caught, but Samsung should have been extra wary of the replacement devices. But no, they only stopped after even more bad news came out.

If Samsung really cared about maintaining quality, they would've taken more than a month to test and ship fixed devices. They should've done a total recall and relaunch a few months later, once they have thoroughly tested their products.

And thanks for the warning about Samsung washers. I have an LG now, and this is the second time the logic board has had an issue in the 10-ish years I've had it (this time it's a sticking relay), and I'm debating repairing vs replacing it. The part is something like $100, but I'm thinking there's a chance something else could die given its age. Then again, $100 is totally reasonable if it lasts another 5 years. If you have any recommendations for brands, I'm all ears.

[-] crank0271@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I went with Speed Queen for laundry machines. If I recall they have three models: a 3, 5, and 7, with a warranty of the same number of years (I got the 7). They've been mostly solid, but we have had some issues and I like that they are made to be serviced instead of thrown away and replaced. I've heard Maytag's commercial line is similarly made to last.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Awesome.

My parents like their Speed Queen, so I'll have to see if my wife would be cool with that. I like that there are very few electronics, just dials and buttons, so there's a lot less to go wrong. I'll have to see if there's a decent commercial dealer in my area.

[-] crank0271@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I also found Yale Appliance's reliability discussions on various appliance categories to be helpful (although they seem to like LG in both categories of washers):

https://blog.yaleappliance.com/most-reliable-front-load-washers

https://blog.yaleappliance.com/most-reliable-top-load-washers

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Eh, they only look at the first year of service, and honestly, that's not particularly interesting. I'm more interested in what happens after 5 years, since that's about half the expected life of the average consumer-grade washing machine.

I honestly don't have a problem with LG, the only issues I've had are with the circuit board, and it's been two separate issues (the first seemed like a short, the second was a sticking relay) spaced about 5 years apart (I've owned it almost 10 years now). So the rest of the components seem fine (pump, motors, screen, etc). And honestly, the current failure I have is inconsistent, so it'll probably last a few months before I absolutely need to fix or replace it. I like this YouTuber's reviews, and his recommendations are:

  • top load with agitator - SpeedQueen - they're pricey, but they usually get 20 years in a commercial setting
  • top load w/ impeller - LG - should last 7-10 years, do a good job on saving water and electricity
  • front-load - SpeedQueen (but they're really pricey) or LG (7-10 years; maybe more)

But apparently, he says anything other than Samsung.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago
[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well my $1800 phone has push notification ads for mobile games I can't disable because Samsung flags the Galaxy Store as a system app so you can't disable notifications. You can see here that the option is greyed out.

They also install shitty games with "security updates" every month or so.

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

Never seen those before on my Samsung tablet.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

It's been really bad recently on my Fold 3, but didn't start happening until about a year after I got the phone.

I think they wait for all the reviews and "1 year updates" from the YouTubers to pull this shit.

They honestly can't make that much off this bullshit on a per-device level. My phone costs more than 2 cars I've owned, and I could just buy a Pixel Fold next upgrade, so it wouldn't take a huge percentage of users jumping ship to mage or more costly than profitable.

If MKBHS, Linus Tech Tips, etc called them out in their reviews of Samsung devices it would stop overnight.

[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Dear God yes, why the fuck is my Fold trying to install fucking candy crush and a bunch of other games every time it does a software update?! And recently it has a new system app trying to install games as well, that comes back if dismissed in any other way than opening it to get the offers and then clicking on the never option. And apparently never is like 3-6 months according to Samsung, because it does come back.

I really hope the Pixel Fold 2 is a solid phone, because that is where I plan to migrate to after nothing but Samsung phones since the Note 3, which was has been all downhill since TBH (RIP microSD cards).

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Samsung pays them too much for them to rock the boat.

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

I'm so glad that the launcher I use has a "Recently Installed Apps" button at the bottom of the apps list. It makes it so easy to go through and scrub the bullshit they install on my phone.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Nova Launcher and set the first page of the app drawer as empty. Then when it does that, you see them and can uninstall. Samsung is trash, but I also don't care if I drop my phone in the ocean, cause it isn't $1400...so a trade-off.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

So you want the batteries to not show ads? I don't understand. Do you have any actual relatable issues between the batteries and other products?

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

How about the time they had to recall their flagship phones because the batteries were exploding and ended up being banned by the FAA?

So they changed our all the batteries, and re-released the phones, only for them to start blowing up again?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago
[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

When 2 different manufacturers both have a design catching fire, it's the design that's the problem.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

The first was a design issue, the second was a manufacturing issue. Both should have been caught by Samsung's QA.

[-] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Use ADB to disable Store and AppCloud (adware/nagware that should be killed with fire). No, not the notifications, the apps themselves.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

It's ludicrous that my phone costs more than 2 different cars I've owned and I have to go through this kind of bullshit so they can make another 15 cents on average per user.

[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago

so why would you buy an $1800 phone if you can't root it and load some FOSS on it?

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Because I don't want to lose my warranty on a phone with a soft plastic foldable screen.

Yeah, denying warranty for rooting is technically illegal, but knowing that doesn't do anything for me.

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