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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 125 points 1 year ago

Biden already has those codes. If I look at where we started with Trump and where we ended up, and then where Biden picked up and where we ended up, my choice clearly becomes Biden. Trump went from "grab em by the pussy" to Covid to breaking a bunch of laws to an insurrection. Biden cleaned up Trump's mess and avoided a complete imminent global financial collapse. All things considered, I'd rather see Biden over Trump and it's too late to try to swap out Biden.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But have you considered that he didn't change military policy on Isreal?

That should be the one and only issue you base your vote on, according to a scary amount of people around here.

Edit: See? Here they are, saying Trump and Biden are the same. It's kinda wild to watch.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Different people have different priorities. I live in eastern EU. The idea of the US dropping all support for Ukraine is pretty damn scary to me. I obviously can't vote in the US election, but I will happily support Biden from across the pond due to that one issue.

To a Palestinian? Yeah, I understand they don't really care about anything outside the direct issues affecting their people so they'd be anti-Biden.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I get why they don't like Biden. But Trump has openly said that Israel should escalate the attacks and finish off the Palestinians.

Biden is ignoring genocide. Trump is actively encouraging it.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

I didn't realize .ml was populated by so many Palestinians! You'd think they'd have more pressing things to do than post snark on Lemmy.

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

If Biden is okay with murdering Palestinians, what makes you think he’d care about murdering you?

[-] FatCrab@lemmy.one 24 points 1 year ago

Look, even if you single issue on Palestine, which is 100% reasonable, the fact of the matter is that life expectancy and quality for Palestinians absolutely goes down significantly further under Trump. He has effectively said as much. Ot is baffling to me how there are people so myopic and stupid as to not see this. If you actually give a shit about even a single Palestinian, Trump is quite clearly an even worse nightmare scenario than they currently experience.

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

“The genocide I am imagining in my mind is worse than the genocide that is currently happening.” — liberals

I’m not sure there will be any Palestinians left to kill once Biden’s finished with them. If he’s willing to slaughter an entire nation just to enrich his arms dealer puppet masters, what makes you think he’d hesitate to slaughter you?

[-] FatCrab@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

It's a tragedy that lazy apathetic cynicism like this has a real chance of resulting in an order of magnitude more deaths than have already happened. You won't have to suffer the consequences of the choices you are contributing to, which is deeply unfortunate and unfair.

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Tens of thousands of people are dead in Palestine and hundreds of thousands in Ukraine, all thanks in to Biden. A majority of covid deaths (hundreds of thousands, possibly more than a million) happened during Biden’s presidency. One might almost think that it’s not necessary to vote for genocides, especially because you probably don’t even live in a swing state, meaning that your vote is already nullified by the slaveowner-designed constitution.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are correct here. Notice how they can't refute the fact those lives were lost by Biden's incredibly disastrous foreign policy.

[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Let's go with your outline - "I'm not sure there will be any Palestinians left to kill once Biden’s finished with them". Now, you'll go and vote for Trump, be delighted that Biden is no longer there, and then what? What do you think you'll be gaining with Trump in charge?

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’m not voting for trump. You don’t actually have to vote for either nazi, especially since the electoral college has probably already nullified your vote.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago

You're right, better to advocate for him to lose to Trump. He'll treat me way better.

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Explain how Biden’s policies are different from Trump’s.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago

Were you asleep for 4 years or are you truly this disingenuous?

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I woke up from liberalism in 2016 after the corporate media, which had already lied about the Iraq War and the Vietnam War and plenty of other pretty important things, reassured me that Trump could never win the election. I returned to the USA (big mistake) after living for years in a country with universal health care, and found myself surrounded by liberals who insisted that universal health care is evil and terrible and impossible, though I had used it hundreds of times and thought it was amazing, and was horrified by the possibility that my family would be bankrupted if one of us got into a car accident (for instance). I began to wonder if I was on the right team. I started reading Marxist theory and history, and here I am, asking for someone to explain, using specific policy examples, how the Blue Cheetoh is different from the red one.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago
[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] null@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago

Project 2025 thanks you for your service.

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Project 2025 began in 1492 for everyone in amerikkka who isn’t rich and white 😉

[-] null@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago
[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Roe was undone with Biden as president. Biden also just stated that he opposes gender-affirming surgery for minors:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/biden-trans-surgery-19554046.php

Try again, nazi! Stop pinkwashing genocide!

[-] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago
[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’m not voting for trump either dude. Can you explain how Biden’s policies differ from Trump’s?

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I’m not voting for trump either dude. Can you explain how Biden’s policies differ from Trump’s?

The only way you can comfortably say this is if you are solidly middle class, white, and cishet. But I have news for you.... it's not all about you.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago
[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How are minorities doing with Biden/Trump in charge?

[-] null@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago
[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I dislike Trump’s impoliteness but I love his policies, which is why I worship my cult leader Genocide Joe and can’t write even one sentence describing how his policies are different from Trump’s because I know my opponent in this argument will simply find an example of Trump doing the exact same thing! Oh well, back to MSNBC I go!

[-] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

So what is about Trump that you love so much? Is it the hair? I bet it's the hair.

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I can’t stand trump. Do you like biden because he has continued or intensified all of trump’s policies?

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did we ever get that comprehensive justice system reform after the George floydd protests?

If not... maybe the protests didn't go far enough? Go further.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, well, you fucking mouth-breathing moron, here's how: Biden personally told me he likes murdering Palestinians more than me last week at a charity function. We were having manhattans and those little cocktail weenies.

[-] duderium2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ableist insults generally signify nazism. It’s no surprise coming from a biden/trump supporter.

[-] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's not too late to swap out Biden, but i agree with everything else you said.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It is too late to swap out Biden. It's too late to try this with anyone else.

[-] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ok, would you care to explain to me why? The way i see it, Biden is and always has been "not Trump". If you put another person who isn't trump but is also not a terrible unpopular candidate they would probably get a lot more votes.

People keep saying it's too late without giving any proof. Saying that shit is going to MAKE IT too late. Postponing it any is going to make things harder. It's something that unanimously has to happen right now if we want any chance at not falling to fascism.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It is too late to swap out Biden. It’s too late to try this with anyone else.

I'm slowly coming around to a Harris ticket. That memo that's been circulating lays out a pretty compelling case.

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