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[-] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 66 points 6 months ago

Sometimes I think about how much art was never created because of capitalism. It either never got funded, or a potential artist never got the chance to make it, because just to scrape by, they had to spend too much time toiling to make some business owners money. It's depressing.

And, just to cut off one potential counterargument: I don't give half of a shit how "good" that art would be. I'm confident there are spectacular works of art that never came to be, but even putting it aside, it's all subjective. Some folks would have loved it, and the artists would have found value in making it. That's more than enough, and a hell of a lot more meaningful than breaking your back working for a living so that other people can own stuff for a living.

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 20 points 6 months ago

And how much crappy art was pushed to popularity just because it was more easily marketable. To be popular you have to somewhat sell out and there are probably thousands of marginalized artists no one ever discovered because of that :/

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

40 hour workweek is excessive. This is based around units containing at least two adults, maybe multigenerational homes with grandparents doing childcare. Now that we expect dual incomes the workweek should be 20 hours at most before overtime kicks in.

What I am getting at is that just giving people time back to exist could happen with changes to the current system. Unfortunately that means smaller yachts for the people on top, so we cannot have it.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 6 months ago

20 hours at most before overtime kicks in.

As a perpetually single guy I'm actually behind this. Most of the time I'm completely forgotten about and the conversation goes as if being married is the default position for everyone.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 6 months ago

I was just talking about this yesterday with a friend. They're a writer with a few small published things, but they can't do it full time because they're barely scraping by with work.

[-] storcholus@feddit.de 5 points 6 months ago

While I am not a fan of capitalism, there is something to say about everyone does what they do best. I am not an artist, but there is a lot of artists for me to enjoy and support on the internet, and for them it's easier than ever to live the life off an artist.

[-] Irremarkable@fedia.io 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

and for them it's easier than ever to live the life off an artist.

I am not an artist,

Very obviously

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Is that a problem?

[-] prole 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While I am not a fan of capitalism, there is something to say about everyone does what they do best.

And you think capitalism uniquely allows people to "do what they do best"?

I'll make sure my virtuousic drummer friend who was forced to become an electrician's apprentice in order to survive knows about this.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Andrei Tarkovsky is one of cinema's greatest contributors, and published his works purely during the mid-late Soviet Era. George Lucas once expressed that he felt less free in Capitalist America to make art that he wanted to than Soviet filmmakers, even with government censorship.

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