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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 138 points 3 months ago

Literally all you post about is "don't vote Biden".

You always capitalise Russia, but then generalise "the west".

You never go against Trump or the Republicans. Always just "don't vote Democrats".

And weirdly you seem to try this "both sides" bullshit even when you do the rare comment about something other than "don't vote genocide Joe", like in this thread where you're talking about the Russo-Ukrainian war carefully without taking a side on the issue.

So, how would one recognise an actual Russian troll, btw? Like... they probably wouldn't admit to being one, would they?

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago

Yeah this account basically just flipped to constantly posting Israel war memes a month ago.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 34 points 3 months ago

Along with quite a few others. Before that, it was all economy all the time

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago

You specifically should know better.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Tired talking points.

"I know trump is bad, but democrats are worse!"

"Republicans at least show who they really are, democrats decieve their constituents!"

"I'm not for Russia, but Ukraine should just ceasefire, so there's no more bloodshed."

"I know genocide would be even worse under Republicans, but Genocide Joe should concede and let someone else run."

"Both sides are the same, so a vote for either side is a vote for the same thing."

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 15 points 3 months ago

in this thread where you’re talking about the Russo-Ukrainian war carefully without taking a side on the issue.

I think russia is in the wrong and deserves to lose, but I think Ukraine does not have the numbers to win on their own and I think the US knows this but is only really after hurting russia's economic ability to pursue their further imperial ambitions. Since russia has entered a wartime economy I don't think this is likely anymore and we are creating a situation where russia has no reason not to continue and a larger conflict with NATO is likely.

Does that help clarify?

Literally all you post about is “don’t vote Biden”.

Close: I post a lot of agitation for democrats to demand better from their party, and i've mocked the impulse to signal loyalty despite knowing what the democrats are doing is wrong, but I have never encouraged anyone not to vote. Democrats have no reason to address criticism if they are confident voters will turn out regardless, that's the impetus of my strategic agitation. I could be wrong and it could be misguided but I don't think it is.

You always capitalise[sic] Russia, but then generalise[sic] “the west”.

I don't know how to take this, considering it's a comment about proper capitalization that's filled with typos/misspellings. If i've ever failed to capitalize another country's name it isn't on purpose. Since you're more familiar with my comment history i'll let you point out which ones i've made that mistake in and I'll correct them as needed. I'll even de-capitalize russia if you want, i don't give a fuck.

So, how would one recognise[sic] an actual Russian troll, btw? Like… they probably wouldn’t admit to being one, would they?

I've repeatedly had this conversation with you, I don't feel it necessary to have it again. You can suspect me of being a troll if you want but since it's not possible for me to prove to you otherwise I don't think it's worthy of addressing. Mods can verify my IP address area if they feel its warranted. It's making me uncomfortable that i've attracted this much attention from you though, out of concern of being doxxed I'm thinking I should start using a VPN.

Please stop harassing me.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You stop doing shit posts lying and misrepresenting things, and people stop giving you shit for them. Sound like a deal?

Such thin skin it's pretty cringe-worthy. For how much smack you talk.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago

Just out of curiosity, what was the misrepresentation this time?

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

It's a shitpost kiddo. You know exactly what they are. It's the reason you posted them. Who do you think you're fooling? Because if anyone's being fooled it isn't us :-). And if you're going to do it at least have the decency to not feign ignorance and cry when others call you out on it.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago

It's as high-quality of a meme as it's responding to, chum :)

Back and forth, forever ))<>((

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I didn't say it wasn't. Just that you're bad at this.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago
[-] Donut@leminal.space 8 points 3 months ago

You always capitalise[sic] Russia, but then generalise[sic] “the west”.

What kind of US Defaultism is this? Capitalise and generalise are 100% correct in British English.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I honestly did not know there were alternate British spellings of those words. All I know is my spellcheck was flagging them, and i only know the American spelling.

The broader point remains.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago

Australia and Ireland checking in, the american spelling is the alternative!

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Oh I've got you blocked.

Doesn't work like it does on Reddit though, so I still see your shitposts. As long as I encounter your posts, I will keep replying to them.

Too bad.

Like I've said and like everyone keeps saying, you're really bad at this.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago

We all have to take care of ourselves sometimes.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

You always capitalise Russia, but then generalise “the west”.

...

You're supposed to capitalize the name of countries, and not geo-poltical regions...

Hell, by your logic since you capitalized trump and republicans it means you support them and not that you're fighting autocorrect to make a very very small point.

So, how would one recognise an actual Russian troll, btw? Like… they probably wouldn’t admit to being one, would they?

One thing people look for is an unfamiliarity with the convoluted rules of English. Like not knowing what gets capitalized...

But by 2024 most people have realized social media comments rarely have that much thought put into them. If say a good way is looking at where they spend their time. We know from a recent study (can't be bothered to Google it right now).

But it's safe to say people with nefarious reasons for posting wouldn't spend their time on one of the smallest social media platforms.

Like, just think about it rationally for a second. Why wouldn't they do it on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, or somewhere else their audience would be tens or hundreds of millions? Why spend the same amount of effort where even if it takes off, your audience is like not going to exceed more than a few thousand at most?

I'm just fucking tired of people constantly accusing each other of being professional state actors.

It's something trump would do...

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 3 months ago

You're supposed to capitalize the name of countries, and not geo-poltical regions

I have no interest in the substance of the argument which has nothing to do with the grammar, but, yes you are. “We need to go west to reach the river” is lower case, “we need to align with the West to reach our goals” is capitalized.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Correct. Trump and Republicans are also proper nouns.

[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Look up. The point went right over your head.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

That’s a HUGE wall of text to illustrate that you don’t understand proper grammar. You absolutely capitalize the West when referring to a nation.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You're supposed to capitalize the name of countries, and not geo-poltical regions...

It's not about grammar rules. It's about the psychology behind the specific choices.

Like using "females" in a social setting. It tells a lot.

Why wouldn't they do it on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, or somewhere else their audience would be tens or hundreds of millions?

Because these things aren't mutually exclusive, that's why. They're doing it on allplatforms. You found your way here. Do you think the average or even specifically trained Russian is so much dumber they couldn't find their way here..?

That sounds rather racist, bro.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Do you think the average or even specifically trained Russian is so much dumber they couldn’t find their way here…?

I'm sure they could...

I'm saying it would be a waste of their time.

I hope you don't need another reply to understand, you'll have to ask someone else.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I’m saying it would be a waste of their time.

Why exactly? Catching trolls is much easier on popular sites like the ones you listed. Sure, there are more of them, but also more of them are constantly flagged. Fediverse has no such overarching moderation, as you well know.

You don't see how that's a massive advantage?

I hope you don't need another reply to understand, you'll have to ask someone else.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They are more than likely a sock puppet of one of the banned spreaders of propaganda.

[-] kinther@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago
[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago
[-] kinther@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Did they? I blocked his dumb ass after nonstop political astroturfing posts

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Not Linkerbaan, OP. Dude admitted he was here to disrupt the election process.

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

You always capitalise Russia

But... that's how you're supposed to write it.

So, how would one recognise an actual Russian troll, btw?

Look, you yourself just capitalized the R.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It's not the grammar.

Think a guy who says something like "come on guys, let go find some females"

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I don't see how this is similar.

Do you think it's unusual to speak in terms of "Russia vs the West"?

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