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It's curious they always highlight the
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome
I'm glad more hostages are free, but for me it doesn't sit well the result... 200 people dead to save 4. At least the IDF are improving, luckily this time they didn't kill the hostages.
Who is organizing these rescue operations? Homelander?
But to the IDF the 200 people killed weren't people. So the math maths.
Yup, see the person below you saying almost exactly that in more clinical - but clearly sincere - terms.
Edit: When I say they are "sincere" that is not to say there is any merit to what they are saying. I'm pointing out that they actually believe this garbage is justification for the mass slaughter of children.
Hamas is already willing to agree to the US peace plan, so the only thing preventing the rest of the hostages making it to their homes is political will, and with much less risk.
Except they aren't. They only said they responded positively to the plan. They have not in any way accepted the plan. And today they said they would never surrender.
Obviously it’s good to minimize collateral damage and casualties wherever possible. But I see no issue with this result.
If a country values the lives of their citizens they will rescue them and spill any blood needed. Conversely, a nation that values its cut will try to minimize the harm that could come to them and keep hostages far from where they are.
If a terrorist holds hostages in amongst hundreds of INNOCENT PEOPLE it's fine to massacre them all. When you could have just got all your hostages released by accepting peace. Cool moral compass you have there
If it was my family or countrymen being held then absolutely the military should do what is necessary to secure their release.
If it were my country, I would want peace. Israel will never have peace until Palestine has peace. That will never be gained via military means.
Not with that attitude.
What part did you disagree with?
I agree, Hamas is a criminal terrorist organization that does not value the lives of Palestinians. I mean a criminal terrorist organization hiding hostages amongst civilians in a heavily populated area they are worse than the example you gave because they intentionally put those civilians at risk of harm.
I see, so the civilians who have had their friends and families killed, been violently forcibly kidnapped, had their taken from their family friends and homes abused, starved and raped don’t deserve their freedom?
The ones that are victims of Hamas.
Sounds like the victimized Palestinian people need to band together and overthrow Hamas. That might be a better strategy than celebrating their victories by dragging the dead bodies of those lovely white ladies you mentioned around town in the back of trucks.
Friend, YOU are the one to suggest there are Palestinian victims of Hamas. Hamas also hides hostages amongst civilians thereby putting them in danger.
Hey friend, you seem to have deleted your comment. Further on down the thread.
It’s ok, I included a screenshot. Incidentally, the reason I took that screenshot is because there are many, many posters who will change their comment after the fact or delete their comment altogether to disingenuously try and shape the comment thread after the fact.
Anyways for the record I didn’t report you to the mods when you had your other comments removed.
Chao.
What if Hamas is spilling blood because they value their citizens and land?
Hiding hostages in a highly populated residential area, without any means of self defense or even evacuation safe zones, is not called valuing the citizens. It's called using them as leverage, something terrorists love doing to civilians.
What did the spilling of blood on oct.7 did to Palestinians? Make them live in hell for over 8 months? Make thousands die? And for what, for massacring Israelis? What do you think Hamas has done in oct.7 that would make you think they "value their citizens" - coz to me it only looks like they just wanna kill jews.
What makes you think they don't think that? In the end palastine was occupied by Israelis. It said a good government spills blood for its citizen, how can you be so god damn stubborn to not see that this point holds just as valid for palastine and Hamas. Of course you can cherry pick one thing that is not protecting citizen but I believe you can do the same thing with Israel. Like the US is constantly fucking up its own people, I'm sure you can cherry pick an event in Israel too. How much thought went into the citizens as they came up with the idea to plant Israel in the middle of a Jewish hate triangle where they are threatened and attacked on a so regular basis, they need stuff like the fucking Iron Dome in their cities?
What do you mean? Of course they do. It's not a contradiction, because they are adversaries.
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They even lost one of their own soldiers in the process
And killed 3 other hostages in the massacre
It's only 200 people. How many people am I worth? 200 kidnappers? 199kidnapers and I kid? 198 kidnappers, 2 kids, 3 moms, 5 elders and cousin Vinny? Couldn't they just get the victims out and catch the kidnappers instead?