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[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

tally sticks were debt tokens. people used them as money out of convenience, and would exchange them for cash if it was possible.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

An easy way to tell if it's "real" money or not is to see if goods are ever priced directly in it, where it isn't just directly indexed to the exchange rate of an established currency.

Hint: Even places that accept crypto payments don't do this. The crypto price fluctuates based on the moment by moment exchange rate to the local currency.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

sumerians denoted everything in silver shekels but trade was done will all manner of commodities, including barley grains. your theory of money sounds like it comes from the Adam Smith cult.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Are barley grains a currency? I'm not understanding your argument here. In a practical sense, cryptocurrencies are far too volatile to use as a currency and the "stable" coins are tied to things like the US dollar. Well, I should say allegedly tied because "stable" coins like tether haven't been audited to actually prove it's tied to the underlying.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

people use all kinds of things as money. none of it is fake, except counterfeits, but even they have found use as currency.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That's like saying stocks are currency because you can trade them for money.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[-] Rekorse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

People have paid for things with stocks before, as a currency.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

oh nice. then yea. it's money.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

barley grains have been used as currency, yes.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Are they a currency now? Why or why not?

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I am not in touch with every living culture but my guess is that they are not. at least, I don't know of any current cultures using barley grains.

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

tally sticks denoted debt in Britain, and were used directly as money out of convenience, but they were themselves denoted in roman currency iirc.

[-] Rekorse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Can I ask what the point of arguing semantics here is?

Maybe you have put in the effort to figure out all the avenues to use bitcoin to pay for things, but its not easy and you sound more like a drug addict scrounging for metal and bottles, and then wondering why noone else is interested in your hustle.

Why do you care if people call bitcoin real or not anyways? For most people its not real, for you I guess it is, does that make sense?

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

if someone is making a semantic argument it's those who won't accept that Bitcoin is money as surely as any other form of money we have ever used.

[-] Rekorse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

What's the difference between something having monetary value and it being currency then?

I dont see the difference between the bitcoin I could buy drugs with online, and the ps2 I trade my weed dealer 15 years ago for drugs.

I dont understand what greater point there is to be had here besides, "well technically anything is currency".

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

there probably is no such thing as fake money except counterfeit money.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

So latin American currencies are not real money. We already knew but wow harsh reality

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