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[-] Sasha 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not interested in the whole yelling at each other thing, so genuinely asking here. What exactly does not voting democrat get the left in the US? Is the OP's assumption that you want to accelerate fascism actually correct?

So far I haven't seen any reason other than either accelerationism or "because it makes me feel bad" and I refuse to believe that's all that's behind it.

I'm really having a hard time, and I genuinely think it's important to try to understand the points of view and beliefs of those we disagree with, rather than immediately turning to infighting.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago
[-] Sasha 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I can't tell if you're mocking me, I don't know how much clearer I can be that I just want to know why, if I can't understand why people think it's a good idea then I can't be sure that my views/opinions are actually worth anything.

If you just don't want to talk to me then, that's okay too.

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 months ago

People like this exist to argue. They have no ideology and no beliefs.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago
[-] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago
[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Read the other posts in the thread, then. The answers are already there.

[-] whoreticulture 4 points 7 months ago

I think they were saying they agree with the idea that people should understand the political beliefs of those they disagree with.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Is this a bot? This reply doesn't make any sense.

What are you agreeing with? They asked you for more information.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I was agreeing with not shitting on the left and the need for an attempt to understand them. Not a lot of good faith attempts at understanding happening here, just a lot of bullying.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Political parties exist in the free market just like corporations. If they can't earn votes a new party will form. It's happened before and it will happen again. That's why they message with fear. It's effective at turning off any critical thinking.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Political parties exist in the free market just like corporations.

Tell me more about the political free market under Project 2025.

In fact, tell me more about how quickly firms rise and fall in the free market. It's instantaneous, right?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Sometimes it is. Sometimes you have to push it off the cliff.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Sometimes it is.

lmao

[-] whoreticulture 6 points 7 months ago

Shifts the policies of the Democratic party so that they appeal to leftists. Not going to get into an ongoing debate, but just so you can't say you haven't seen any other reasons (which sounds fake to me but okay).

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, it is dogpiling and bullying in here. The reasons are here in the comments and elsewhere.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Bullying is when people say something I don't like, and the more I don't like it, the more bullying it is.

[-] whoreticulture 6 points 7 months ago

This is bullying lol, very disingenuous to the actual situation. Come on.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Oh good, you've asserted that saying something you don't like is bullying. That truly confirms it, then.

[-] whoreticulture 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Do you think that sarcastic responses are proving your assertion that there isn't any bullying going on?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I don't think my sarcastic responses prove anything. They're just sarcastic responses to some truly exceptional assertions as to the meaning of bullying.

[-] whoreticulture 3 points 7 months ago

I guess what I really meant to say is, your sarcastic responses is part of it lmao

[-] Sasha 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I appreciate it. I'm not here to debate you and I have no reason to lie about not having seen anything else, though I'm honestly a bit hurt that you think that, but I guess you've been nothing but attacked so far so perhaps it's understandable.

[-] whoreticulture 3 points 7 months ago

Thanks for understanding. 🏳️‍⚧️💖

this post was submitted on 18 May 2024
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