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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 177 points 1 year ago

Anyone that says Biden isn't doing anything is blind.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago

Or most likely not reading truthful news.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 31 points 1 year ago

Tbf, society used to have "news", and many people are slow to realize that while the media still call themselves by that name, they no longer live up to that truth. i.e., not everyone who is blind is purposefully ignoring the truth - there is a whole spectrum of people in the middle.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As the New York Times' coverage of the Israeli Genocide has made obvious to even the blindest most tribalist of people, the "liberal" media was and is just as hard spouting propaganda as the far-right one.

Personally I think that the decay from Journalism into "Opinion Forming" in the traditional more liberal Press long predates the Fox-News Age and their destruction of the trust in the Traditional Press for temporary political gains of "their side" created the prime conditions for the rise of the made-up-outrage "Press" that so well fits the modus operandi of far-right populism and hence fed and was fed by made-up-outrage far-right populist politicians like Trump.

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[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, public radio and tv exists.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago

I do not know much about those, as I do not have any special-purpose devices that can receive those signals. Do they not also follow the "if it bleeds, then it leads" mantra? e.g. did they report when Biden "betrayed" the railway workers by preventing them from striking at the busiest time of year (Christmas 2022), and if so did they also report when Biden spent MONTHS of effort after that to get those workers basically every single thing that they had asked for from their employers if they had been allowed to go ahead with their strike? B/c the for-profit media definitely did the former, though conveniently forgot all about the latter, despite how crucial such info as "how the current President is doing" and "whether the current President lives up to his promises" are to the upcoming election this year.

But even if the only fact that I knew about public radio and TV at all was that they require special devices to access them, they still seem to me to be handicapped, even if differently than the for-profit media sources.

Anyway, what percentage market share are public sources compared to private ones? To use the Fediverse as a readily-accessible example since anyone who reads this is definitely here (hehe, by definition:-P), how many news stories shared in some community such as !PoliticalMemes@lemmy.world are from "public" sources? If all that needs to be done to save journalistic integrity would be to create a new Lemmy community, and put public journalism onto it, then I will definitely subscribe and be a big fan of it! Though I doubt it is anywhere close to being as easy as all that... :-(

Still, your point was worth mentioning.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Radio and television aren't really considered specialty devices.

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[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Now we have hate boner political infotainment. It's disgusting.

We need a free press, but we need to figure out how to deal with those that take advantage of their status... In this case, all of them...

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

Even my absolute favorites of all time - e.g. Jon Stewart - still does it. It is the nature of the game, which we hate rather than the playa. :-(

Though in his case, some of it he does b/c it is necessary, a lot is rather tongue-in-cheek, and anyway he seems to be aware and definitely tries to use his power as responsibly as he can. Also, it may be hate-boning to e.g. watch a politician say something like "never in my entire life have I held this position", then 2s later watch a different video showing that same politician a few years before where they espouse precisely that position that they later claimed that they never had - like yeah, it produces a "reaction" in us, but like... shouldn't it, to watch such a blatant and bold-faced lie?

The difference, imho, is that he doesn't do such things purely for the sake of that reaction, and instead uses that reaction as the vehicle to convey his point, which is that that politician is a bad person, and should be replaced by someone who may perhaps be less bad. And, hate-engendering as it may be, it is also The Truth so... there's that. Which stands in stark contrast to e.g. Alex Jones who also tries to engender hate, but not using Truth, and instead rather for the sake of personal profits.:-(

[-] aibler@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Mu'min wants to know if this is a pro-Biden or anti-Biden comment.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 27 points 1 year ago

But... he's old! And not perfect!!! So obviously, we should stay home and see how much better our lives will be under Trump when it's his last (legal) term and literally what keeps him out of prison... Duh.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Look, I know the opposition is worse in quite literally every conceivable sense, but BOTH SIDES! Ha, take that, LIBS!

[-] fiend_unpleasant@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

He sure is sucking zionist dick really hard. Some would say too hard.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"saving democracy" tho; lol. if he wanted to do that, why the fuck is he running again?

edit: that feels more like 'dangling democracy over a trumpian abyss to jack off his own geriatric ego'.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

He's certainly not destroying it.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

He's certainly not destroying it

Oh, yes, the only two options. Death or life support. No way to improve it.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How could someone improve democracy and who would it be?

Edit: weird that I would be down voted for asking who and how to improve democracy.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, while I think the other person's complaints are unreasonable and dishonest, I really need to answer this sincerely, because it's genuinely important that people understand.

Ways that American democracy can be improved:

  1. Eliminating lobbyists

  2. Capping how much money can be spent on political campaigns

  3. Capping individual donation sizes

  4. Capping donation frequency

  5. Implementing a cardinal or ordinal voting system (such as approval or single transferable vote)

  6. Making voting more accessible

  7. Removing the possibility of gerrymandering

  8. Outlawing political parties

  9. Making voting mandatory

  10. Several other things who's scope mean they probably don't count (like better education, which would help citizens perform democracy better, but also clearly falls outside the scope of the list) or that I am otherwise forgetting.

Edit:formatting.

Edit2: I never intended to answer "who" because that question doesn't have a single answer; the president can't do those things, and it's silly to expect them to.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You didn't answer who. Who is so much better than Biden that they would be able to do all of this.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Despite his age, Bernie Sanders is still the most qualified person to be president. He would get more done and made election reform a focus of his campaigns.

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 2 points 1 year ago

Not only did they not answer the question of "who", they instead listed off a wish list of things no president is able to do unilaterally. Like, those are all good things, but blaming the current incumbent / candidate for not doing those is a completely ignorant take (if not intentionally moving the goalposts).

We need better civics lessons both in K-12 and maybe some kind of adult education classes.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Too many people's expectations of our government are way too high. We can't even feed hungry children in school, how are we going to outlaw lobbying?

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The only unilateral goal in the meme was destroying "democracy" because Trump instigated January 6th. Everything else was a goal that required bipartisan support.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, I don’t see how any president can do any of those. The best he can do is appoint competent justices and try to persuade Congress

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So in this case, expand the Supreme Court? And at least mention these issues at all?

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Great, a usual list of improvements but you didn't answer who. Who will be so much better than Biden and would accomplish this?

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Lawrence Lessig...

The problem isn't that we don't have solutions. The problem is that, collectively, we don't have the will to implement them. It's like effective Climate Change policy or Covid policies. At best, we're getting half measures because people rather have their popcorn and circuses than saving their children. Biden doesn't represent a solution, he represents a theater of a solution.

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[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

he's keeping anyone else from saving it. anyone whose chances are more than ’questionable'.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

How is he not saving it from Trump?

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

he's the worst dipshit that could be running here, sucking up all the support for the smallest permissible 'better', when you have enough bipartisan issues to get support from both the left and sane-right if you ran anyone else. biden is not defending democracy; he's dangling it over a cliff with Donald trump at the bottom.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Neirher West nor Stein would do anything different. In fact both of them want to give in to Putin and weaken democracy world wide. Who could do it better?

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

anyone. else. literally anyone on my block, including many of the pets.

and if 'west' and 'stein' wouldn't do anything different than biden, they're shit too. your whole argument is that the entire democratic party is worthless, that none of them have any virtue to counter trump, just the exact same calculated amount of vice less, the smallest amount so we can say they're not quite the same, following them down the intellectual lacuna, using them as a wind break?

that seems like a party I'm literally never going to vote for.

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[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

About as blind as Biden is to Palestine.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Right, he is totally supporting genocide of the Palestinian people.

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