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Behold, The Results Are IN (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 8 months ago by cowboycrustation to c/trans

For context, these are the results of a survey that I gave to the users of c/Trans.

What are your thoughts?

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[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cis men outnumber cis women 30 to 1 đź’€

[-] Semivir 17 points 8 months ago

Yeah "there are no girls on the internet" kinda thing. Joking aside though, keep in mind that n=370 and sampling from c/Trans probably doesn't give significant results for the fediverse as a whole. Though it is an interesting result.

[-] Anamana@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

I think it's just Lemmy in general. It's not exclusive to c/trans. We also had a survey on c/ich_iel with similar tendencies.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

There's probably a LOT of selection bias in there.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

What? Is willingness to answer polls inherited via the Y chromosome?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago

Willing to share your gender/sex with the internet is probably socially tied to being male.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

Yes but that is a social trait that we would expect to include trans males. It appears that all categories (cis, trans etc.) are disproportionately dominated by AMAB than AFAB people. This makes it seem like the issue is tied to biological sexual traits not influenced by medicine/surgery (such as chromosomes), rather than gender.

[-] cowboycrustation 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I highly doubt this specifically is tied to chromosomes and other biological traits. It's likely got to do with the fact that many (but not all) transfemmes on here went through AMAB socialization for their childhood and teen years.

My current theory is that "boys" are more heavily pushed to go into CS than "girls" starting at a very young age. Teachers do have implicit biases in how they treat their students based on their gender. Usually it is assumed that "girls" are good at reading and "boys" are good at math. I suspect there's also heavily a race aspect to it as well.

There's also the fact that society expects certain traits from men and women. I can say that from my experience having a logical, blunt personality and way of thinking growing up was heavily discouraged and reprimanded. I learned to fake displaying emotions in social situations so that people would quit punishing me for it. After my transition, people don't view the exact same traits as rude and cold like they used to.

Lemmy has a very high percentage of people who are programmers and people in the CS field. There is also a lot of sexism in the CS field from what I've heard and I imagine that keeps cis women and non-passing trans men especially away from it.

Why would anyone be biologically wired to use Lemmy.

[-] Daxter101 4 points 8 months ago

Or social traits related to upbringing.

Like the shitty social isolation and inadequacy of proper bonding of amab people, leading them significantly more towards isolating in technology for their socialization.

I don't have statistics on that, but I'd be willing to bet on it.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

What do you mean? were cis men more likely to answer the survey than cis women on this perform?

(I did not answer the survsy, but that's anecdotal)

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

In general, id say men are a lot more willing to tell the internet their gender and/or sex than women are.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

On an anonymous survey though?

[-] cowboycrustation 2 points 8 months ago

Why would that apply to an anonymous survey tho. The reason that's a thing is because cis women in particular face a lot of harassment on the Internet, but if it's anonymous then they don't have to worry about that.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Cis women's got things to do, friends to meet, career to focus on.... They're busy and they don't have time for browsing internet message boards.

[-] cowboycrustation 4 points 8 months ago

That's a pretty big generalization right there. While it's true that statistically cis women usually take on things more often like caring for sick relatives, housework, and child raising, there are still plenty of cis women who need to touch grass. Just look at the chronically online TERF groups on places like Twitter and Facebook. Many of them are cis women.

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