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Turning Men Down In Public (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

the person you responded to described a series of genuinely scary situations, and it isn’t irrational to be fearful for your safety in those moments

Good thing my comment was under a quote only talking about being killed, making it obvious I was only talking about that one thing.

The grand irony in the phrase "women fear being killed", juxtaposed against men fearing something else, as if they have no reason to fear being killed by comparison, is that the other sex is killed far, far more often. Imagine someone saying "women fear chipped nails, men fear breast cancer", for an idea of how abhorrent and sexist "men fear rejection, women fear being killed" actually is.

I’m curious of your understanding of “the patriarchy” is different than mine, but surely you recognize that we live in a male-dominated society, no?

What feminists et al call "the patriarchy" is just the collective of social standards and expectations, which do obviously exist, but the 'conspiracy theory' part is in the deliberate anti-male name they use for it, attributing all of it to some sort of sinister male plot, within the equally-bullshit 'males are all predators, females are all victims' narrative, by giving this collective a name that places all of the agency and blame at the feet of men. This is done plenty of other times by the same group of ideologues; a couple of examples:

  • The act of assuming someone lacks knowledge because of a trait of theirs that has no actual relationship to having said knowledge is called "mansplaining", creating the false narrative that only men do it, they only do it to women, and that being a woman is the only 'irrelevant trait'. Fact is, both sexes do this, TO both sexes, for many reasons, including but not nearly limited to their sex.
  • When a fanny pack is marketed to men by using camouflage or gunmetal color schemes in the packaging, it's because of "male fragility" (i.e. men are so terrified of possessing a stereotypically-female thing that they won't buy it otherwise). When a set of tools is marketed to women by using floral or pink color schemes, it's magically no longer 'fragility', but an oppressive misogynist plot by the evil corporation.

The fact is that all of the commonly-complained about harmful elements of "the patriarchy" (e.g. the imposition of harmful sex stereotypes on individuals of both sexes), are things both put into place, and maintained perpetuated, by men AND women. Even topics like abortion are falsely characterized as being a strictly male (pro-life) vs. female (pro-choice) issue, when the fact is that the percentage of women who are pro-life, and of men who are pro-choice, are both in the 40s!

All of this "patriarchy" and adjacent crap is just bigoted ideologues creating division where it doesn't exist, down to giving things that do exist deliberately misleading names that absolve and remove all agency from the in group, in order to blame it all on the out group.

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

What feminists et al call “the patriarchy” is just the collective of social standards and expectations, which do obviously exist, but the ‘conspiracy theory’ part is in the deliberate anti-male name they use for it

Yikes.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Right? I feel like the person you replied to is one of the people I would avoid in public. Especially since they don’t show a shred of empathy for the real fear women in this country have of being assaulted or murdered by a man with anger issues.

And that’s not even getting into those who suffer from domestic violence.

[-] yeah@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

yeah for serious "woah". I replied earlier up and I wish I hadn't bothered now.

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