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[-] Code@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago
[-] GuStJaR@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

Now we get to play a game.

Will the response be:

  • The left thinks everything they disagree with is fascism

  • The left are the real fascists for suppressing dissent/banning online trolls

  • No reply ever

I've got my money on #1, but they're all strong contenders.

[-] PloKoon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I'm going with #3 for now lol

[-] Nezgul@reddthat.com 14 points 2 years ago

It's always #3 when it comes down to it. Their ideology only makes sense in a bubble divorced from reality. Poke the bubble, reality starts seeping in, and the ensuing cognitive dissonance causes such a brain cramp that it's easier for them to ignore reality than accept it and adjust accordingly.

[-] Code@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

1 & 2 because they always want to attack. #3 if they're losing the argument.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You do realize I was talking about you, right?

And that my prediction was correct?

[-] Varixable@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

He doesn't even like get us man.

[-] Flemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[-] Code@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

What do you mean? I'm not a leftist lmao

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago
[-] Code@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

You're not making any sense. You talked about how a leftist would reply, but my argument was pro-right. Weirdo lol

[-] Feirdro@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Its 4. It’s just words and words don’t matter. Unless you want to be an election official, then we’ll ruin your life.

[-] Code@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

What doesn't make sense to me is why Republicans are called Fascist. You say that it involves a "centralized autocratic government", but the whole belief of Republicans is LESS government involvement.

"Severe economic and social regimentation" that doesn't make sense either considering the liberal states are having a max exodusoin favor of Republican states like Texas. Fun fact, Texas is the #1 state for business in the USA with the highest growth, and despite its smaller population, it almost has the same GDP as California (and substantially less residents). If "Fascists" are so bad, why is everyone moving to their states?

"Forcible suppression of opposition" Democrats literally weaponized the FBI to take down their political oppositions lol.

Tell me you believe anything the media says without telling me.🤦‍♂️

PS: Trump sucks

[-] Nezgul@reddthat.com 23 points 2 years ago

My sibling in Christ, Republicans say they want less government, but are more than happy to poke their noses into all sorts of things. For instance, Republican legislatures have used government to rob people of their bodily autonomy in medical decisions.

I remember all of the GOP whinging about "government-run death panels controlling your medical decisions" when the ACA was being debated. Who could've guessed it was projection?

[-] amki@feddit.de 15 points 2 years ago

If they want less government involvement then explain to me why they make it their cause to forbit abortion, label abortion pills unsafe and even make teaching scientific theories forbidden?

I though they were about the government being involved less not more?

[-] Code@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah I dont agree with that either.

[-] III@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Do you think whether you agree with the conservative stances that you defend has any bearing on how factually incorrect you are?

[-] Code@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, I dont agree 100% with either side and they both have their flaws. I agree with more of Republicans points today, but abortion is definitely a huge no. Democrats have a lot of flaws too, to me its who's pros outweigh the cons, and as it stands Republicans are winning for me at the moment. Note that ibused to be a die hard Democrat and I even donated to Pete Buttigiege's comaign as well as Bernie Sanders (even had a bumper sticker lol). Democrats have lost my vote due to them not focusing onnreal world issues and living in fairy tale land. I care more about being a realist rather than an idealist. Facts over feelings.

[-] Code@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What doesn't make sense to me is why Republicans are called Fascist. You say that it involves a "centralized autocratic government", but the whole belief of Republicans is LESS government involvement.

"Severe economic and social regimentation" that doesn't make sense either considering the liberal states are having a mass exodus in favor of Republican states like Texas. Fun fact, Texas is the #1 state for business in the USA with the highest growth, and despite its smaller population, it almost has the same GDP as California (and substantially less residents). If "Fascists" are so bad, why is everyone moving to their states?

"Forcible suppression of opposition" Democrats literally weaponized the FBI to take down their political oppositions lol.

Tell me you believe anything the media says without telling me.🤦‍♂️

PS: Trump sucks

[-] pandacoder@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

I'm not addressing the racist part of the post with this, just the "less government involvement" part:

  • anti-porn laws
  • educational restriction laws
  • abortion restriction laws
  • contraceptive restriction laws
  • laws attacking encryption

The list goes on (and I'm sure there are more laws passed that I'm forgetting about) but the first four categories are heavily pushed by the GOP and the last one they are still co-sponsors on (Lindsay Graham and Diane Feinstein both suck). Some of the laws that are being passed are even designed to restrict constituents even when they aren't in the state, and some even restrict their ability to LEAVE the state.

GOP is not the "less government" party, they are the "less government that allows things I don't like and more government that forces everyone in line" party. There really isn't a "less" government party, they're all just "different" government parties.

PS: Adding "PS: Trump sucks" at the end doesn't magically give everything else you said credence.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Current GOP policies are like a mishmash of policies pulled from dystopian sci-fi for the past 100 years: 1984, Handmaid's Tale, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, they're trying to bring back all the classics. In yet another example of how it's all just projection with them, it's actually the GOP that's trying to create a "nanny state", one that has control over even the most personal aspects of our lives. They've become so cartoonishly evil in how they're trying to make peoples' lives worse that it'd be funny if not for the fact that a good portion of the population supports them, they're actually putting alot of their policies into effect, and they have a Conservative majority in the Supreme Court. I don't see any of this ending well for America or the world at large.

[-] Code@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Do you have any articles pertaining to the attacks against encryption? As a software engineer, that one I didn't know about and is really important to me.

[-] Feirdro@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

You’re mistaking the GOP’s words for their actions.

I don’t care what they say about small government, I care that they’re telling women what to do with their bodies. That they’re threatening election officials with violence. That protesters on the left get arrested and Proud Boys get escorts. This is what matters.

[-] Erratic@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just addressing the "almost has the same GDP as California" statement

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP

Nominal GDP 2022 California: $3,598,103 million USD Texas: $2,355,960 million USD

Per Capita GDP 2022 California: $92,190 Texas: $78,456

?????

[-] JudgeHolden@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It's a common lie. The reality is that red states score much lower on every objective quality of life metric, while having much higher rates of things like violent crime, addiction and suicide than any blue state let alone any of the US's peer nations in the rest of the developed world. It's not even remotely close. With very few exceptions, the social pathologies we see throughout the US are concentrated in red states. Blue states have problems too, but they tend to be related to the fact that they are highly desirable places to live.

[-] IamtheMorgz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Thank you for addressing that part! Easy to see the hard numbers don't play out that way.

[-] Code@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. I never said they have the same,biit for the population difference its pretty high go there.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's pretty rich for you to accuse people of just believing what they're told and also say that the GOP "want less government involvement."

  • Is dictating what sexualities are allowed to exist in public "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is requiring schools to display a religious message "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is censoring public library books "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is the largest giveaway to billionaires and megacorps in our nation's history "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is expanding the largest prison population in the whole world "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is celebrating the infrastructure cash that comes to town despite voting against it "wanting less government involvement?

  • Is using our tax dollars to build weapons to sell to other countries "wanting less government involvement?"

As for "Texas is the #1 State for business," that's a meaningless platitude unless you specify what it's first in, and regardless capital is often in bed with fascists. Nicely done.

And regarding moving populations: how would that indicate that the GOP-run states are not fascist? Surely they would attract a population that agrees with the authoritarian policies against those who they see as their enemies? Is your whole argument "people who move can't be fascist sympathizers?" Cool story.

And your claim that the Democrats weaponized the FBI is just hilarious.

[-] RealMudflapper@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Less government involvement? Is that why you can't get an abortion after you're impregnated by your dad in half the states?

[-] Code@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I dont agree with their take on abortion either.

[-] Methylman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A political movement centered around freedom for the underside of that part of the roof which overhangs the rest of the building

Edit: or am I getting confused with that soffit sect of islam ?

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