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President Biden told a Democratic lawmaker and members of his Cabinet after the State of the Union address that he told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that they will need to have a “come-to-Jesus meeting.”

Biden’s comments, captured on a hot mic as he spoke with Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) on the floor of the House chamber, came after Bennet congratulated the commander in chief on his speech and pressed him to keep pressure on Netanyahu over increasing humanitarian issues in Gaza.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Lemme guess, Biden could go over to Netty’s for a little Palestinian-Baby bbq, and you’d still support Biden?

It’s fair to criticize Biden for supporting and enabling genocide. It’s also fair to point out that. Biden has been a senator for most of those fifty years.

It’s also fair to point out that corporate subsidies aren’t going to solve climate change or bring resiliency to what change is now unavoidable.

It’s also fair to recognize that Trump is an even greater asshole.

But it’s not fair to point to Trump and say it’s unfair to criticize the sitting president for their actions.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Pretty sure none of that has anything to do with what I actually said.

I guess it is easier to argue with someone if you can just decide that they're saying "it's unfair to criticize the president" or similar bollocks and then explain why that is wrong. 🙂

(BTW - If you scroll around in this thread, you will find me criticizing Biden)

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Pretty sure drawing contrast to your apparently unquestionable support for Biden- specifically surrounding genocide- has everything to do with your criticism that we’ll never be happy.

And you might be right. There’s very little Biden can do or say to come back from his support for genocide. And as for climate change… he’s as hypocritical with that as he is calling for a ceasefire while making sure Israel stays fully stocked on bombs.

(For example, he broke his promise to block new drilling on federal lands, has released more oil from the strategic reserve than all other presidents combined and established policies which has increased oil production.)

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Nah man he's right, Biden fixed the climate and saved Palestine! It's us, the simple minded voter, who are wrong.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Pretty sure none of that has anything to do with what I actually said.

I should have just said this when you first commented on my original comment lmao. I didn't realize how easy it was, thanks.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

It's always amazing how dedicated they are at "offering criticism" completely out of context, with little to no evidence that completely ignores anything that doesn't paint Democrats in a bad light while simultaneously ignoring any criticism of the GOP. Solutions and context are enemies for some reason...

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It’s amazing you don’t understand what “context” is.

The original commenter is trying to gaslight. He made a comment about how “we” wouldn’t be happy if Biden reversed course.

The irony here is there is absolutely nothing Biden can do to bring all the dead babies the bombs he’s already supplied to Israel back.

Biden has gone way the fuck out of his way to facilitate and support genocide. And the OC expects us to embrace Biden for stopping that support? For doing the barest minimum?

I guess I can give Biden a golf clap, if that makes him finally do the right thing. And you’ll note he still hasn’t done the right thing.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

My guy, we're going to have an ice free Arctic by 2025. There is no more time for business as usual neoliberalism bullshit. You are deluding yourselves if you think trump is going to bring about the end of the world when the end of the world is literally currently happening lol.

[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What study bears out that 2025 date? Everything I've read regarding sea ice points at 2050-2080 at the earliest.

.. so downvotes in lieu of evidence? Plain lies it is then.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago
[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And I'm central, regardless I find the downvotes rolling in before any evidence is presented flummoxing, mammary glands aside.

And that study points at 2050, 2067 as an outlier. 2025 is the number you promoted above, no?

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The earliest ice free conditions could occur in 2020 - 2030.

Read harder

[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

What you need me to define the word conditions? Do you need to read the paper again and understand what ice free means?

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago
[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Wow! You really are operating in the same fashion in both spaces. You might not care about intellectual dishonesty throughout someone's post history, but I find it incredibly illuminating.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I apologize for a slight grammar error? I don't know what else to say. The artic will experience ICE FREE SEA ICE CONDITIONS by 2025. Great work detective.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

criticize the sitting president for their actions.

It's not this so much as the attitude that it's too late, so everything he does now is wrong.

If there's literally nothing he can do at this point that you approve of, then why bother trying to get your approval?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Anything he does now is a hollow apology for what has already happened. Nothing he can do will absolve the US- and him specifically- for what support has already been provided.

Not that my support actually matters to him. Or yours. He doesn’t care what you or I have to say. Which is why he didn’t hesitate to support genocide, and has continued to support genocide.

This is something that can’t be made right. It’s not a political game.

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