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femboys and egg culture rule
(lemmy.blahaj.zone)
How to get out of an uncomfortable egg culture situation with this one simple trick.
Real talk: Calling people eggs is a violation of the egg prime directive, and is considered invalidating as you are trying to say that a person is not the gender they identify as, that their identity is invalid. Don't call people eggs, like ever, it's extremely uncool.
Wait when did "egg" in the context of gender and sexuality become a thing?
"You egg" is an old insult in New Zealand since at least the 1980s meaning you are a dork or loveable idiot.
Edit: there's heaps of examples in Taika Waititi's NZ films.
Realising one is trans is often called "cracking your egg". Calling someone an egg in this context means insinuating the person is trans (and hasn't realised it yet).
Not necessarily trans, it's just being unsure about which gender direction you want to choose. Nonbinary and "actually I am cis" are also valid outcomes after cracking.
Wild that you just called gender a choice
Is it not one?
Kinda? But not really. Sorta like sexual orientation.
Isnt it what LGBTQ+ community has been fighting for everyone to understand?
Didn't even think about that interpretation of my comment, lol
When you grow up your sex is like the default setting for your gender. I meant it in the sense that when you grow up you get to choose how you want to express yourself. Deviation from the default setting as a choice, not like you can choose your gender. There are very strong correlations in the brain structure of trans people with people of their whished-to-be-born-as sex.
@tb_ thanks, got it. Has it been a thing for many years or is it new?
Not many years, but far from new in internet time scales. Maybe in the last decade or so.
@jawa21 now that I'm really thinking about it, I think I've probably seen people using it to refer to themselves but not using it on others as an insult.
That's how it's supposed to be used, r/egg_irl was pretty big, and now there is !egg_irl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Both are mostly people suspecting they are trans, and coming to accept themselves
Shakespeare uses it too!
@JohnDClay @Malgas omg this is as good as the time I found out Hieronymous Bosch had painted a kiwi bird.
Can you share a Pic of the Kiwi bird please ? ๐ฅบ
@Wutchilli you mean in the painting? Sure, look in the bottom right corner of the third side of the Haywain Triptych.
Edit: detail
Thanks
It's similar to being in the closet. When you come out as a trans person, you "come out of your shell" so to speak. As such, people who haven't are considered to be "eggs" still inside their shells.
While we are talking about that, wouldn't chrysalis be more fitting?
When the trans person hatches a beautiful butterfly emerges from the chrysalis.
Perhaps. I didn't make the analogy. Personally, as a completely cis person, I think they both work really well. Maybe there's some more significant meaning from another perspective.
They say that when the egg cracks, a cute chick comes out. Chick referring to both a trans woman and a baby chicken. Doesn't work for trans men but that's how the term started I believe.
I think if you make sure to call someone an "igg", or preferably, a "bliddy igg", then should still be fine
Preferably while listening to Iminim's Lose Yoursilf.
@Viking_Hippie aww man now I know how Americans feel when people reference Trump's stupid sayings as if it's their national culture.
Hadn't thought about those assholes in a while.
Sorry, but I had to ๐
@porous_grey_matter I think I just need to make sure I only use it on other Kiwis.
Not the birds, though. That would be the equivalent of calling them babies, which I'd imagine they'd find very insulting.
@Viking_Hippie if a bird is being an egg I will tell it. #nofilter
Fun fact: kiwi have the biggest egg relative to their body size of any bird in the world.
Look at this badass talking at eggs! So principled! ๐
Also Shakespeare:
โMacbeth Act 4, Scene 2