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femboys and egg culture rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 1 year ago by FMC8456@lemm.ee to c/196

How to get out of an uncomfortable egg culture situation with this one simple trick.

Real talk: Calling people eggs is a violation of the egg prime directive, and is considered invalidating as you are trying to say that a person is not the gender they identify as, that their identity is invalid. Don't call people eggs, like ever, it's extremely uncool.

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[-] livus@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait when did "egg" in the context of gender and sexuality become a thing?

"You egg" is an old insult in New Zealand since at least the 1980s meaning you are a dork or loveable idiot.

Edit: there's heaps of examples in Taika Waititi's NZ films.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Realising one is trans is often called "cracking your egg". Calling someone an egg in this context means insinuating the person is trans (and hasn't realised it yet).

[-] livus@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

@tb_ thanks, got it. Has it been a thing for many years or is it new?

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago

Not many years, but far from new in internet time scales. Maybe in the last decade or so.

[-] livus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

@jawa21 now that I'm really thinking about it, I think I've probably seen people using it to refer to themselves but not using it on others as an insult.

[-] itslilith 6 points 1 year ago

That's how it's supposed to be used, r/egg_irl was pretty big, and now there is !egg_irl@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Both are mostly people suspecting they are trans, and coming to accept themselves

[-] Turun@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily trans, it's just being unsure about which gender direction you want to choose. Nonbinary and "actually I am cis" are also valid outcomes after cracking.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Wild that you just called gender a choice

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kinda? But not really. Sorta like sexual orientation.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Isnt it what LGBTQ+ community has been fighting for everyone to understand?

[-] Turun@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't even think about that interpretation of my comment, lol

When you grow up your sex is like the default setting for your gender. I meant it in the sense that when you grow up you get to choose how you want to express yourself. Deviation from the default setting as a choice, not like you can choose your gender. There are very strong correlations in the brain structure of trans people with people of their whished-to-be-born-as sex.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago
[-] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@JohnDClay @Malgas omg this is as good as the time I found out Hieronymous Bosch had painted a kiwi bird.

[-] Wutchilli@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can you share a Pic of the Kiwi bird please ? 🥺

[-] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Wutchilli you mean in the painting? Sure, look in the bottom right corner of the third side of the Haywain Triptych.

Edit: detail

[-] Wutchilli@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

It's similar to being in the closet. When you come out as a trans person, you "come out of your shell" so to speak. As such, people who haven't are considered to be "eggs" still inside their shells.

While we are talking about that, wouldn't chrysalis be more fitting?

When the trans person hatches a beautiful butterfly emerges from the chrysalis.

[-] Klaymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

They say that when the egg cracks, a cute chick comes out. Chick referring to both a trans woman and a baby chicken. Doesn't work for trans men but that's how the term started I believe.

[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Perhaps. I didn't make the analogy. Personally, as a completely cis person, I think they both work really well. Maybe there's some more significant meaning from another perspective.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think if you make sure to call someone an "igg", or preferably, a "bliddy igg", then should still be fine

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Preferably while listening to Iminim's Lose Yoursilf.

[-] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Viking_Hippie aww man now I know how Americans feel when people reference Trump's stupid sayings as if it's their national culture.

Hadn't thought about those assholes in a while.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry, but I had to 😁

[-] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

@porous_grey_matter I think I just need to make sure I only use it on other Kiwis.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not the birds, though. That would be the equivalent of calling them babies, which I'd imagine they'd find very insulting.

[-] livus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

@Viking_Hippie if a bird is being an egg I will tell it. #nofilter

Fun fact: kiwi have the biggest egg relative to their body size of any bird in the world.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

if a bird is being an egg I will tell it. #nofilter

Look at this badass talking at eggs! So principled! 😄

[-] Malgas@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Also Shakespeare:

What, you egg! [He Stabs Him]

Macbeth Act 4, Scene 2

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