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Joe Biden wins primary election in New Hampshire despite not even being on the ballot
(www.businessinsider.com)
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For zero delegates...
Unless the DNC is going to retroactively change their mind and not strip NH of their delegates now that Biden won.
Which would be really shitty considering lots of people didn't vote because without delegates it was literally pointless.
Just because Republicans went full on fascist doesn't mean Dems need to start pulling this stupid shit.
Let’s make up a scenario in our head that never existed and get pissed off about it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-delegates-new-hampshire-primary-2024/
Welp, looks like you're wrong...
Edit:
I'll add the full context even
24 delegates, thrown out because the state party (who is in charge of primaries) didn't do what the national party asked, because that would require changing state law and there just wasn't time for that.
So the DNC and Biden threw a tantrum and tossed democracy out the window.
Are you aware that New Hampshire decided to unilaterally put themselves first in the primary schedule based on some nonsense in their state constitution?
As I'm somewhat a fan of democracy, I think that South Carolina is a much better first primary state than New Hampshire for the simple reason that it better represents the demographic and ideological makeup of that party.
I agree with the commenter above, you've inventing shit to be mad at.
They stripped the state of their primary delegates...
Because the state party wouldn't violate state law...
I get why you added the "somewhat" to that end but tho.
And I don't think any exchange with somone so anti-demacratic will ever be productive in a political sub.
Yep, ya got me bro. Nothing says "i love democracy", or as you call it "demacracy", like advocating for a small state which is not at all representative of the broader voting base to unilaterally put itself first in line to the nomination process. 😂
With people like you around it's no wonder Socrates was put to death by popular vote. They also loved making shit up to get mad at back then.
I was with you until you added the ad hominem attack.
Fair. Totally fair.
That was wrong of me, I was just tired of constant bad-faith arguments over nothing.
The bad faith arguments are infuriating
Yeah, if it was a single person, I'd agree with you...
But your "party member" is the state party leaders who have no control over state law...
And the NH state government, their House is Republican, their state Senate is Republican, and their Governor is Republican...
So what the fuck was the state Democratic party going to do about NH State law in less than a year?
And why does them failing to do that mean no NH Dem gets a say in who their candidate is?
Seriously.
How does this work out that you think the state party had any say?
Yeah, sounds like you're getting mad at hypotheticals. Maybe hold off on the pitchforks.
The pulled the delegates...
Biden won...
If they reinstate the delegates, that's not better, that's worse. Because the last two primaries the party favorite comes in last and the most progressive has won NH... Canceling it to only put it back in when the moderate party favorite wins is fucked
Which I didn't think needed explained, but this thread has shown me my expectations were a lot higher than they should be
Because NH got their panties in a twist and decided that their miniscule state needs to be first? They can go fuck off.
Nope.
Because there wasn't enough time for NH to change their state law...
DNC and Biden got so mad a state wouldn't violate state law to help him in an election, they stripped the state of their say in who the candidate was. And it's a total coincidence he got his ass kicked there last primary....
But it's cool, because he legitimately is still better than trump, and even though that difference keeps shrinking, no one is allowed to complain about Biden because trump exists....