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Steam keeps on winning (www.pcgamer.com)
submitted 10 months ago by Carighan@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

From the opinion piece:

Last year, I pointed out how many big publishers came crawlin' back to Steam after trying their own things: EA, Activision, Microsoft. This year, for the first time ever, two Blizzard games released on Steam: Overwatch and Diablo 4.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

"This product is worthless because it doesn't cater to... Let me check my notes... Under 2% of the market and even less if we don't count the Steam Deck!"

Ok buddy

[-] cottonmon@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

I really don't understand this argument. Aren't you basically pointing out that Steam is better because they cater to a demographic that most companies won't consider because of the small market size?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

No, I'm pointing out that it's perfectly normal that other companies don't see the point of spending money on it. Steam has 70% of the PC market which is 96% of the market and you think it's a good idea to put energy into trying to capture some shares of less than 2% of the market where they have basically a 100% hold.

Don't start a business.

[-] cottonmon@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I understand that it's normal, but the argument still doesn't make sense for the purposes of this discussion. For people who do use Linux, it is worthless since they can't use it. I also can't blame Linux users for not liking a company that has been hostile to them (i.e. removing Linux support from a game that had it.) You're just reinforcing that Steam is a better option for them.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

The problem is that the complaints aren't "It might be a good product, I can't try it because they don't support my OS of choice and that's understandable considering the small user base" which is perfectly reasonable, the complaints are "Epic sucks because they don't support Linux and [insert a bunch of stuff that hasn't been true for years or that also applies to Valve as a company]" which isn't reasonable.

[-] cottonmon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's not just that though. A lot of people have already pointed out that Epic appears to be actively hostile towards Linux by removing compatibility for games that had it before. People have also pointed out that turning on Linux compatibility for EAC is fairly trivial, but they refuse to do it. For some games, Linux users have to go through extra loops just to make it work. So when it looks like a company is treating a certain demographic as something that's worth less than shit for no apparent reason, I'm not surprised that they'll have a negative attitude towards that company.

And say what you want about Valve, but they have pushed Linux compatibility and it's not surprising why Linux users have a more positive view of them over Epic. As I've already said, your argument reinforces this point.

[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

You have a comforting and appealing way of getting your point across that totally leaves the listener/reader readily open to considering your opinion. Keep doing that.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

that the difference, instead of getting their ass fucked for what ever stupid decision microsoft do, they created their own market, that btw already run faster than the microsoft's one while windows is getting worse day by day, linux is getting better, an they are doing it in the most pro-user way

Under 2% of the market

more than macOS lol

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Already runs faster than the Microsoft one"

Yeah so that article you're referencing doesn't have any credibility when you actually understand how sampling works.

One computer setup, ignoring the games that don't work at all, Windows offering marginally lower performance at peak but much higher fps stability... Let's present it as a major win for Linux!

Do you know what my stats teacher would have told me if I had presented a study based on a sample of one? They would have told me "See you in this same class next year, you clearly didn't understand anything I taught you so we'll try again."

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Bruh, the Steam Deck is Linux.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, but its only use (in the vast majority of cases) is playing games so it's not comparable to Windows PCs (a versatile tool) which are 96% of the market and are comparable to Linux PCs. The people who buy a Steam Deck intentionally buy it to play PC games with a portable device and couldn't care less what OS is on it, the people who run a Linux PC intentionally use Linux.

Although now that I say that, I wonder how many Deck owners are just Linux users who bought it out of OS loyalty and wouldn't have shown any interest in the equivalent product (ROG Ally, Legion GO)... When wouldn't make them much better than the Apple fanatics if we think about it...

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

I very specifically bought a steam deck because it can double as a Linux desktop. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Caution, though, this same principle applies to the disabled, and soldiers; both groups gaming companies have made many direct attempts to support even if it’s just for a positive public image.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

The difference being that you choose the OS you're using.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Uhoh. I didn’t think this would be how I learned about the US draft being reinstated.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Find me one soldier/veteran that would choose to have PTSD or their limbs mangled.

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