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Ah so Palestinians are allowed to die by Israeli hands but Israeli are not allowed to die by Palestinian hands in Zelensky’s eyes. Okay, got it.
I mean from the videos recorded by militants themselves. It is really hard to support them.
Frankly they fucked Palestinians with this move and will be really hard to get international support.
I’m not sure who you mean regards the support (English isn’t my native language).
However if you meant, it is hard to support Palestinians due to what’s happening now. That’s hypocrisy.
I don’t agree with the murdering and all. However, Israel have been doing that for decades and decades (killing men, woman and children. Stealing homes, closing water, electricity and basic needs) and no one bat an eye to it. Now Hamas striking back and it is all bad?
Certainly is bad however not unsurprising. People will fight back.
EDIT: I think, I have misunderstood what you said. Let me know if that is the case.
That was bad and this is bad. Two things can be bad and saying the second one is bad doesn't means the first one is good.
I don’t really understand what you mean by that.
What you meant to say is you don't WANT to understand
If that is what you think, that’s okay.
Two wrongs don't make a right
Oh, that way. That’s indeed true. But it is very understandable that if one is being oppressed for decades, they will eventually fight back and return everything that’s been done to them.
It’s sad but reality.
For example, why is okay for Ukraine to fight back but not for Palestine to do the same? Both get oppressed, are losing land and their own folk. Yet people complain mainly about Palestine fighting back and not about Ukraine fighting back.
I, personally just find it odd that people are okay with Ukraine siding with Israel in the name of “they are allowed to defend themselves!” But when Palestine is fighting back to defend themselves and fighting for their own right to live - that’s not okay.
It is hypocrisy for Zelensky to be okay with Israel oppressing Palestine but finding it not okay for Russia doing the same exact thing to his own country.
Two wrongs doesn’t make it right, right? So that would mean that it isn’t okay for Israel to oppress Palestine for decades as well.
EDIT: Not that I care about downvotes on Lemmy, however it seems that majority here supports Israel which is genuinely sad to see.
Ukraine doesn't gun down shelters and cafés full of civilians and parades mutilated bodies of tourists through the streets.
That's why people support Ukraine and criticize Palestine.
But I don’t see people criticize Israel for decades of oppression on Palestinian people. That seems to be normalized by everyone nowadays.
What do you expect? Palestinian people to just be like “okay, kill us go ahead”?
Did people forget that Zelensky knew that Russia would wage war on them and he kept this a secret all along because he knew people would leave the country?
People (including myself) are criticizing Israel EVERYWHERE ad nauseam. Bringing UN resolutions (vetoed by the US), protesting on the streets, ranting on the internet, wearing t-shirts, donating to NGOs...
Everybody knew Russia would wage war on them, there were satellite images published for weeks before Feb 24th, which of course Russia denied. Is /r/RussiaDenies a thing on lemmy yet?
People do criticize Israel, but this recent Hamas attack made it hard to do right now.
No, it's just that Zelensky has to lick Netanyahu's behind to beg for aid. Sad but true
That's very much not true, Ukraine not yet received any aid from Israel.
Right, but they want to.
That's never going to happen, especially now there's no way that Israel sends military aid any time soon. Even before that, Russia was and still is pretty important for Isreal which is putting them in a very awkward spot when it comes to the war in Ukraine.
It was either support Israel, or lose access to their weapons. I'm sure if Palestine was the oppressor with military superiority, he would support them. Of course, whether or not he personally supports Israel's regime is unknown to us, but we do know he needs their weapons.
No I think it has more to do with US and EU positions. He will parrot their opinions because he wants to be seen as an ally. Add that to the support he’s already getting from that region and the answer is that he isn’t allowed a real opinion here
Agreed. That is the more likely scenario.