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submitted 2 years ago by Cabrio@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

Larion Studios forum stores your passwords in unhashed plaintext. Don't use a password there that you've used anywhere else.

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[-] poopsmith@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but backend servers will almost always have the user-submitted password in plaintext as a variable, accessible to the backend server and any upstream proxies.

It's even how it's done in Lemmy. The bcrypt verify accepts the plaintext password and the expected salted hash.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, which is why they're vulnerable to mitm and local sniffer attacks.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago

Have you found a mitm attack on TLS?

[-] canni@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago

This guy's a fucking clown, I'm sure he's like 15

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Not without compromised certificates they haven't. You can tell because if they did they'd be world famous for having destroyed any and all internet security. Then again, they'd probably already be famous for having figured out a way to salt, hash and store passwords without ever holding them in memory first like they claim to do above, so maybe someone is lying on the internet about their vague "proprietary network protocols".

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah, this guy is a hoot.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I haven't looked into it but I was wondering about the logistics of setting up a federated honeypot for server side stream sniffing to build a plaintext email/password database.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Man, you sound like you're just using random words you heard in class. Clearly you have no clue how user registration actually works, let alone backend development.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Well it's a good thing your opinion has no effect on reality.

[-] fireflash38@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

There are ways to have passwords transmitted completely encrypted, but it involves hitting the backend for a challenge, then using that challenge to encrypt the password client side before sending. It still gets decrypted on the backend tho before hash and store.

[-] poopsmith@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but SSL/TLS also solves that problem in a standardized way.

In either case, the backend will have the plaintext password regardless of how it's transmitted.

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