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No, it means you won't be able to work and will now have to fight over garbage to eat if you want to survive.
The rich guy didn't built the robot by himself. Most likely he only financed by paying the people who actually built it. He didn't built his business by himself but paid people to built it for him even if he had the idea.
He had an idea because he's smart and had the education to support his intelligence. He had that education because someone paid for it, either family or the state. Even if he paid for it he had the upbringing that taught him the value of education and had the luck to be born in a country where that education is valued and pays off.
Nothing he has was built by himself only. The only thing we do by ourselves is taking a shit.
Yeah it helps if daddy is rich, like Donald Trump who claims he did it all by himself, on a "small" ($ 60 mill.) loan from his dad, and then he inherited a huge fortune.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/trumps-small-loan-from-his-father-was-more-like-60point7-million-nyt.html
Or Elron Musk who grew up on the benefits of daddy owning an emerald mine.
Both are absolutely the worst kind of narcissist sociopaths that come from privilege, so the old claim of the rich having heavy responsibilities they learn to manage, is complete bullshit too.
neither really started in a garage: https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/05/steve-wozniak-apple-starting-in-a-garage-is-a-myth
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/5/17823490/google-20th-birthday-anniversary-history-milestones#:~:text=Initially%20known%20as%20BackRub%2C%20Google,on%20the%20World%20Wide%20Web.
you just drink the kool aid from billionaires thinking you'll be like one but you never will, the amount of money the 1% has is an amount noone should ever have
https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/
The simple fact that Gates' school even HAD a computer HE COULD RESERVE TIME ON for a personal project really highlights how much wealth he had access to. Gates was never super rich growing up, but he and the rest had access to privileges few had in those days because of the wealth they had access to.
Google began as a research project at Stanford and was funded by over a million dollars from stanford people and family of the founders. The guy who wrote the code wasn’t part of the founding.
Idk much about apple other than the guy who designed the apple 1 wanted to give away the schematics because it came from his time at a computer club but the other guy said no.
Even those people needed others' work to start their own company my dude. The chips in Apple computers or servers that Google relied on didn't grow on trees. Not to mention that the billionaires you mentioned were educated.
Guess who funded their education. Either directly or indirectly.
How many of those millionaires contribute something positive to the world? There are some who've made systems to automatically reset power breakers on distribution lines, automate management of water flow to large farms, etc.
Then there are morons like you who sell pillows filled with low quality foam out of their garage.
Maybe this would work in middle ages when there was some untaken land to settle on.
What makes the rich guy entitled to be rich?
Let's say this is right. Then you should try to explain this: Why are most people not rich?
Did everyone just collectively decide "nah I want to be poor, be stressed and live paycheck to paycheck"? No, of course they don't. No one does.
Your logic is idiotic because you don't realize the rich became rich by exploiting other people, namely the working class.
Are they? Or is it because everyone knows their efforts are not compensated properly?
If you want people to not be lazy, pay them. You pay 10 dollars, you get 10 dollars of effort. Blindly labelling this as being lazy is quite a... hear this, a lazy way of thinking. Heh. Millions are studying in university to get a job, I would say that they are working really hard! But are their efforts reciprocated properly?
Why don't you tell that to the HR departments then? Oh I feel bad for your generation - when basic critical thinking doesn't exist.
And there are college graduates making 90k/yr in the US. That's why I said efforts are not being compensated properly. The fact that other trades are earning more does not affect this conclusion, think about it more.
Imagine basing your judgement on generational stereotypes. Oh no, millennials. Oh no, Gen Z. Oh no, it must be facebook. What other contributional points can you guys provide?
Kind of makes it easier if you can get a 60 million dollar loan from daddy like Trump did.
Or if White Daddy owns an Emerald mine in Black South Africa, taken by force by military from Europe, like was the case for Elron Musk. So how was that fair to all South Africans?
You are completely blind if you think there is an even playing field.
Yes there may be the occasional anecdotes, like Jeff Bezos who weren't born rich, but for them it requires both insanely hard work and luck.
Anecdotes are not a statistic that proves anything. And the statistics clearly say that if you are rich, chances are overwhelming that you were born into it.
Yet the rich have a sense of entitlement that they somehow deserve to be rich, but not the people who have to work two jobs, and never have a vacation. How do you arrive at that is a fair system?
You don't have any influence on luck. So yes, nobody can do that, that's something you may or may not get.
I never claimed any such thing, you are arguing a Straw Man.
I never wrote anything of the kind, you are arguing another straw man.
Yet another straw man, that's 3 in a row now. Tell me don't you know what a straw man argument is, since you continue to use them?
I never said he would give you anything for free. I said quite the opposite. Idk how you interpreted "everyone will have nothing and fight over garbage to eat" as "we'll be given free stuff". It seems you're arguing a point I never made.
It starts with a basic idea like all people should have access to food, clean drinking water, shelter, healthcare, and a basic minimum quality of life. For most people, access to these things are currently granted by working and earning a wage.
Wealth and resources are finite. As a company generates profits and it gets hoarded by a minority of people, that means there are less and less resources every single day for the rest of the population.
As companies implement more automation, there are fewer jobs. With fewer jobs, that means there are fewer people who can afford the basic necessities of life. As companies introduce technology which can work faster than humans, it devalues a humans value to companies meaning less pay for employees, many of whom are living paycheck to paycheck as it is.
Furthermore, with these reductions in cost to produce a product through automation and robotics we do not see a related decrease in consumer prices.
In short, a person earns less while prices of goods continue to rise. The quality of life of the vast majority of the populace is continually going down.
Not everyone can be a CEO, executive, or high earner. It's just a physical impossibility. In addition, these same people weild disproportionate power in the legislature. They are able to manipulate the rules that increase the barrier of entry into a business as well as manipulate markets to prevent my goods from generating a significant profit, if they so desires.
So while I do not feel entitled to what they produce, finding land and starting a farm would not secure those basic necessities of life and the opportunities to do so decrease daily.
They're entitled if we say they are, just like all the other rights. It would be great, I agree. So let's work on that.