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A Crazy Scandal with a Competent Press, Maybe
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I don't really think it's the press's fault. I think America simply doesn't give a shit anymore. They seem to be completely inured to the crime, corruption, fascism, blatant lies, performative cruelty, election interference, embarrassment on the global stage, etc.
It's very peculiar.
I’m sure it seems like that from the outside. There’s so many of us inside that are fully sick of this, but we also all feel helpless for a number of reasons.
Nobody wants to be alone in making the first move of outward revolution.
None of us can afford to take a week off, much less the foreseeable future off to plan and execute any kind of meaningful action.
Once we lose our job from participating in said action, we don’t have healthcare anymore.
We’ve got to be so far past the point of no return that the status quo can’t continue before most people will be able to do anything.
Combine that with the press hiding most of this from the people, and people still wanting to hold out hope for…something…and you’re where we are at.
I’m crossing my fingers that the midterms (or lack thereof) will be the turning point.
I was reading about the French Revolution yesterday and the thing that really got things started was mass starvation. Something like 90% of French citizens were actively starving.
There will need to be a singular suffering affecting 90+% of people before we'll all take to the streets and put heads on pikes. I'm guessing climate change might get us there.
Tbh with the sheer scale of America I doubt even mass starvation will work. The government could probably just keep the states immediately around the capitol sated and leave the rest of the country to die and most people won't be able to afford travel to the capitol to riot. I bring this up in every thread but to travel from the west coast to Maryland to start a riot is the same distance as traveling from Ireland to Moscow to riot. And we have barely functional trains.
Well there are local governments. The federal government can't exert it's control by itself.
I mean... it literally can. Only ~20 states have their own State Defense Force and the federal government can turn any state's national guard on its own people. The national guard has been actively leveraged to help ICE brutalize and disappear immigrants and American citizens already.
Also if we were to consume Gavin Newsom, for example, that does not help us get a functional federal government back.
so the asumption here is that the US military will just roll into fascism and against the people no questions asked?
Is there any kind of indication that they won’t?
I mean. "The Hunger Games" is a real book and series that kind of thoroughly shows just how fucked the United States of America is.
It even matches your point. They lavish food and gifts on the first two districts (District 1 producing luxery goods, and District 2 producing police/armed forces). Then tie the rest into fighting amongst themselves over measly leftovers.
Still didn't last terribly long or peacefully, but multiple generations is still a gut punch.
That starvation thing does seem to be looming. Or easily preventable disease.
No we already confirmed 6 years ago that wasnt enough.
indeed
John Galbraith's book The Culture of Contentment helps underscore that point
https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691171654/the-culture-of-contentment
I don't think starving will stop his supporters as long as "the libs" are starving, too.
We don’t need his supporters on our side. It would be nice, but once the rest of us are starving too there’s more of us.
Hopefully though, we can finally get through to them that it’s the ~2000 billionaires or so actively waking up each morning and deciding not to end world hunger that are the actual issue.
I totally get your point,
but a friendly reminder to everyone in that same position: hope is not a strategy. At least try to come up with a plan for when it get worse. Do not be naive; as long as it can get worse, it likely will be.
No, you’re completely right. Hope is not enough. I’m also planning, but need to have hope that others outside my circle are too.
It will get worse. In fact, it has to - or else the majority of people will just brush their hands and say “hey we fixed it, nice job” …kinda like Biden 2020.
From the outside it looks like it’s similar to turning a big ship in a way. It’s just taking time for it to turn; meaning enough to get sick of it. It’s definitely wrong now to say nothings being done by people, you’ve only got to look at the videos people are taking of the migration police to see there’s resistance flowing through.
This situation here is a clear abandonment of media responsibility. Journalists themselves, or their profession, will take the reputational fall for this and it won’t matter if that’s fair to them or not. The right kind of reporting on this would go a long way to driving resistance against it.
Yeah I hope the midterms are somehow fair and held. It’s the best solution. I hope people turn out for them too if they are. The more that do, the harder it should be to rig or prevent voting at the polling booths.
The people don't pay the press. The oligarchs captured the press, and now when the press reports what concerns the people, the oligarchs punish them. Part of this started cos we stopped paying the press. This is why I have a couple of newspaper subscriptions. More people should, so we can pay the press to report what concerns us.
Well I pay for good press, but it needs to be good for me to pay for it.
I have a feeling that was happening with the press regardless of subscription, but you raise a point
"Well I pay for good press" <- does your use of the expression mean that you will only pay if you find good press, and are therefore not paying for press because you don't find it up to your standards?
I don’t pay for it unless it’s up to my standards
Like anything else I decide to pay for or subscribe to
Do you currently pay for any press?
Yeah I just said I did
Yes I subscribe to a news source
Not that I agree with your point totally, I think subversion of news sources was inevitable anyway but yes, for what it’s worth I subscribe to a news source
We’ve had multiple people make the first move of outward revolution. They were ignored. So, you’re wrong, some people sacrifice in vain for a country that can’t even boycott a Walmart properly.
What you really can’t fucking afford is sacrificing your children’s future with the excuse that you “can’t afford to stop fascism”. You’re WEAK. Or you just don’t care about it. The country is fat as fuck. There’s all the proof you need that we have the money for this. Eat ramen if you have to. Yes, I’m telling you to sacrifice a bit for the greater good. Yes, I’m telling you that’s the only way to fucking fix this.
"Boycott walmart and eat ramen, fatty. Its the only way," is just really funny to me
You know what's even more weak? Typing this garbage onto an Internet forum through your phone while sitting on the couch eating a burger and believing that you're the one making a difference by being an asshole. I hope you're enjoying sitting around and jacking off to porn all day because you're sure as fuck not "sacrificing a bit for the greater good" if you have time to type the absolute drivel that I'm responding to. I'm sure you'll respond with some excuse as to why you're exempt but if you have the time to respond then YOU'RE weak and YOU'RE not doing enough.
Who sits on the couch eating a burger? What the fuck dude?
Anger has this ability to reveal truth. In anger, veritas.
So you sit on your couch while looking at your phone and eating a burger. This is something you do. And you are projecting this onto the other guy that is trying to get people to get off their couch. And that guy gets the downvotes.
This is why america is where it is, folks.
Lol. "In anger, veritas." You're cringey as fuck dude
You don't like my play on words on "in vino, veritas"?
It fucking seems like that from the inside too. Fuck this shit hole country full of fucking fascist bigots.
It is the presses fault. They are now owned by billionaires and they speak to whatever billionaire say to speak.
Its not peculiar, its by design. Flood the people with so much "News" all the time that they stop paying attention. You can only keep up with so much before you just stop trying. Even those of us still paying attention have to take breaks or go mad.
I think you mean buy up all the news outlets. Make them mouth pieces for the rich rather than focusing on facts. Discredit news as fake and watch people turn to their echo chambers to learn about anything and nothing at the same time. How many people including yourself do you knowtjay doesn't trust the news. Gotta be close to batting a thousand at this point no?
No one made these old fucking “journalists” lie like they are now. They either always fucking lied or $omething has got them lying. Fuck them all.
I can’t do it anymore because the “press” are actually just fascist influencers and they are all lying. I don’t believe a single thing any journalist had to say. I don’t believe a single thing the government has to say. I’ll never respect the rapist president. I’ll never accept the heroin addict running the health department. Countries are ideas and this one is fucking dead.
well, it's not like there's a whole lot of options. We have one party that's openly corrupt pedophiles. We have a second party that claims to want to bring them to justice, but in practice they oppose only progressives and support only genocide.
So then the only way to vote against them is third party, but that requires admitting to oneself just how badly we're really losing.
Or to get the second party under new management so they stop opposing progressives.
Kind of a chicken and egg situation.
America doesn't care because the majority of the population doesn't know because the press and media either under reports it, or doesn't report it at all.