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I mean, Roman Catholicism and offshoots have a "main God" which was just a Nazarene man so calling him a woman is at least just inaccurate. The Creator, the one Jesus prayed to, has no sex (even if He is used often, although They is used as well), being a somewhat incomprehensible being and not a sexually reproducing, dimorphic animal, lol.
In the mythology he can't be a man, he never received a Y chromosome from Joseph. Maybe he received that from the father-god? Or he was XO (Turner Syndrome). Could Jesus have been biologically/reproductively female but used male pronouns? Was Jesus trans? Based if true.
Lol, I'm sure the Creator, who made everything, can type in some Y chromosome into us, His little free-willed sims. Jesus was a righteous and selfless anti-imperialist (and proto-feminist/"egalitarian" as well), he gave his life for the cause, and that's all that matters in the end. 🤷♂️
He gets bonus points of trans or intersex though. Standard difficulty multiplier.
The one Jesus prayed to, he specifically called his father.
You know it's all bullshit, right? It's a literal death cult.
Not his, everyone's, lol. Read the Sermon on the Mount, it's like 10 pages?
I was referring to your comment:
This is a good point:
But it's not consistent. I read the sermon on the mount, Jesus consistently refers to god with masculine language. So Jesus's god seems to be male, while other authors had other ideas.
This was one of my favorite parts:
Let's apply that logic to Jesus himself. By the fruits of Jesus (his failed predictions and the horrors that christianity has wrought in his name), we know he was a false prophet. By every available measure, prophets do not exist. Anyone can try to predict the future, especially if they're vague about it. Those who have chosen to "believe" in advance ignore the misses and exaggerate the hits.
Again, Jesus was not a Christian, he was a Jew, a monotheist. He was killed by Rome then his image was co-opted by the empire and his creed disregarded to give more protagonism to amoral Paulian doctrine, which has supplanted the monotheistic core of Jesus' beliefs to this day. What he said makes entire sense today, just think how easy it would be for Trump loving morons that fall for his sweet lies designed for stupid and evil people to realize his idol is a monster! Just like faith without works is dead, through your acts I'll know who you are, and it all follows.
And you have a mistaken understanding of the word prophet, which is restricted to the uhh Lisan-al-Gaib, future teller character. Anyone who has had some communication or given extra capacities from the Divine, directly or indirectly, is considered a prophet. Abraham came with "news" of God, breaking with his polytheist culturally enforced beliefs, not prophecy; Moses came with God's rules, not prophecy; Solomon came with God given wisdom and put it into words for the world to better guided, not prophecy...
What I'm getting at is that Jesus was also problematic, though not as bad as Trump. Jesus confused and misled a lot of people, his bullshit continues to harm us to this day.
Is god not divine? The bible calls them prophets:
The Divine, the One, the Creator, God, they're all terms for the same entity.
And idk, you'll have to tell me what part of Jesus' message or life just wandering around and apparently healing the sick and feeding the needy when he was not preaching about righteousness and love, you think is problematic. Again, the USA of the time killed a revolutionary, God fearing Palestinian man and then used his image to Frankenstein a religion that looked good from afar (because Jesus always looked good) but is nothing but an excuse for immorality and union against a banner for immoral people to go around the world murdering and pillaging (from the Crusades to the Western incursions in West Asia today, as exemplified recently byPete Hegseth). It's not Jesus' fault some evil hellbound cunts killed him and used his image to profit from it. 😔🤷♂️
According to you. But that's in your head, you can't demonstrate that it exists at all.
He did some of that. He was also wasteful, racist, and delusional.
"Listen to me, salvation is only through me, bad things will happen if you do not submit to my dad." That is not love, that is a threat. Ain't no hate like christian "love".
Kind of. But he let himself get crucified because he thought he was a magic man. He was not a great person. His best teachings originated elsewhere. I'm not pretending he never did anything good (if we generously assume that any of the bible comes close to accurately depicting his life), but too many people give him too much credit.
That's not "according to me" nor a matter of belief, it's factual: monotheists in different times and places have called God by different names. It's what it is, people have different languages and roots and all, after all.
I don't think you understand what you're talking about. The "passing through him" means changing your mind through his words (or equivalent, but he's the one alive talking then) so you can better please the Father. It's nothing new ("I didn't come to deny the law and the prophets but to put it into action" or something like that), but he was a revivalist in a time of struggle, loss of guidance and Romanisation. And of course other people also inspired and transformed Jesus, he mentions Solomon himself after all, we all mould and are moulded by our circumstances.
My objection is that god is not real, nothing is divine. But if we're talking common beliefs, yes, many people have claimed that god exists and is divine, but those words mean different things to each person. There is no standard, no measurement, no way to verify.
I was raised in it. I think you are ignoring the abusive foundations of Jesus's message.
Or else that "loving" father will make/allow us to suffer, we'll be denied the kingdom of heaven, etc.
Right, so should we take virgin girls for ourselves after we've killed their families in war?
He also had many glaring flaws. His guidance was sometimes helpful, sometimes very harmful. He was a hypocrite. I think too many people, even non-christians, idolize a guy who was kind of nuts.
True. I have been moulded by Jesus, or at least those who wrote about him, whether I like it or not.
It is also partly why I engage in conversations like this. I want to help others make better choices and I want to make better choices myself. Even if we don't agree, it has been helpful to me to hear about your beliefs, and I get to work on how I write comments like this. I want to practice patience. It can be difficult for me to resist the angry impulses my parents violently programmed into me. I realize I'm repeating myself a bit.
I just don't want it to happen to anyone else. But it is, every day. I want to do everything I can to stop it. I think education, challenging assumptions, has the potential to save lives. It pains me to think of the world we are making for future generations. Humanity needs to change before it destroys itself.
Cannibal death cult.
Does it matter? They'll care.
It matters because it's less critical of the creed and more of people being (selectively?) illiterate and intellectually lazy misogynistic dumbasses!
But the Canaanite god the OT totally borrowed (Yahweh or YHWH as the former naming is a sin) was a married man. His wife was Asherah.
You can whip all all the syncretic bullshit you like, but the OG was a dude who like fighting and lightning. And pussy.
No, you mean that some cults, sometimes, eventually transform/course correct into belief on the One, or something close to it. I understand, but it doesn't change anything. People can be wrong in their understanding of God, people can have nonsensical beliefs like worshipping the very anthropomorphic, Zeus like character you're describing (or straight up deifying a man, like the Romans did!), that's nothing new. I don't believe in that, it doesn't matter if my ancestors did.
That's how you explain just doing a shitty copy paste job of older religions? Then claiming they discovered via divine inspiration?
Bitch please.
Ideology and belief evolves, sometimes for better and sometimes for worse. And how can it be a copy paste when the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed was a being far and removed from any human flaw or negative characteristic? A God of rules, justice and mercy, not just a dude banging women in the skies, lol. Doesn't seem like much was copied, unless you're saying Roman Catholicism went full anthropormphic like the false deities of old and you'd be right but it's a false religion based on a real Jew they killed anyway.
And maybe, sometimes God inspires people. Solomon and his Ecclesiastes are good examples of writings that, considering their time, could go either way! Of course, if you don't believe in God, you can't believe in divine revelation (and you probably don't understand belief at all, you think it's a subset of the thoughts one can have on material reality when it is not), and I won't push either, DW.
So if the evolution of faith is good or bad, how do the incredibly flawed humans of your particular brand of belief figure out what's right? Accident of birth as the overwhelmingly majority of humans 'discover' their faith.
I mean this as a good faith question, so to speak. If faith can go down the wrong path and all evolution of various shared beliefs isn't created equal, what is the 'right' one?
By your own belief, we cannot know the mind of Yahweh, God, Allah, etc. So how do you know you picked the right one?
This guy ain't too bright
He just parrots the talking points he's learnt in his cult
I'm well aware he's just regurgitating dogmatic slop. Catholic survivor myself, so it's always at least marginally amusing to try to adjudicate the logical underpinnings of said dogma with blind adherents.
Change in uhh religious ideology is good when it's a mistaken take, far from what God wants us to do and a product of human ignorance and maliciousness, and bad when it's just a whim because one disagrees with God's takes. As examples of things that changed for the worse and now could change again for the better, we have the Paulian doctrine (God is three, one of them is prophet J-man, and if you believe Jesus is God you're automatically saved, so you can be as immoral as possible and it doesn't matter) at the core of every Trinitarian belief that supplanted Jesus' message, or the amoral takes of some early Judaic so called scholars, or the Hadiths (meant to be sayings of or about prophet Muhammad) that often run entirely opposed to the Qur'an and are blatant ways to excuse immirality...
I follow the word of God as specified in the Qur'an, and also as specified in the Qur'an I believe and understand the messages of Moses, Solomon and Jesus. Nobody who competently reads or knows about what they said and did can say they were all ideologically different: it's one set of fundamental beliefs, that God made us and will judge our judgement, which is at the core of it all. And it's not that hard to understand what right or wrong is, even babies have an innate sense for it after all, and more complicated moral questions just require more brainpower (and for whatever that is very iffy, like idk assisted suicide, God will understand we're just little ignorant, incomplete beings at our core, as he made us)
And there's no right one, lol, you just used different names for the same Creator entity. Whatever you call God, just know you'll meet Him. And, again, I don't think any prophet of God came spreading messages celebrating immorality, they kinda all say the same thing. Even the famous Jesus prayer has similar vibes to Al-Fatiha.
How can you be so sure you're not one on them? I bet the people you claim was wrong, were just as convinced as you are now.
I have examined them, they're consistent with my understanding of reality and they push me towards righteous living, avoiding vices, staying within what's permissible... and I'm almost always willing to discuss things in earnest! But I also know there's much I don't and can't know, but thankfully those things are secondary and ultimately unimportant compared to playing my role in this world as a slave of God. And yes, everyone makes mistakes and has massive holes in their knowledge, and knowledge itself can be tricky to talk about because things, when distilled, end up being based on "self evident" axioms and unprovable statements... but I simply cannot shake the certainty in my belief of a merciful and just Creator. Idk. 🙃