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[-] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's not "according to me" nor a matter of belief, it's factual: monotheists in different times and places have called God by different names. It's what it is, people have different languages and roots and all, after all.

My objection is that god is not real, nothing is divine. But if we're talking common beliefs, yes, many people have claimed that god exists and is divine, but those words mean different things to each person. There is no standard, no measurement, no way to verify.

I don't think you understand what you're talking about.

I was raised in it. I think you are ignoring the abusive foundations of Jesus's message.

The "passing through him" means changing your mind through his words (or equivalent, but he's the one alive talking then) so you can better please the Father.

Or else that "loving" father will make/allow us to suffer, we'll be denied the kingdom of heaven, etc.

It's nothing new ("I didn't come to deny the law and the prophets but to put it into action" or something like that)

Right, so should we take virgin girls for ourselves after we've killed their families in war?

he was a revivalist in a time of struggle, loss of guidance and Romanisation.

He also had many glaring flaws. His guidance was sometimes helpful, sometimes very harmful. He was a hypocrite. I think too many people, even non-christians, idolize a guy who was kind of nuts.

we all mould and are moulded by our circumstances.

True. I have been moulded by Jesus, or at least those who wrote about him, whether I like it or not.

It is also partly why I engage in conversations like this. I want to help others make better choices and I want to make better choices myself. Even if we don't agree, it has been helpful to me to hear about your beliefs, and I get to work on how I write comments like this. I want to practice patience. It can be difficult for me to resist the angry impulses my parents violently programmed into me. I realize I'm repeating myself a bit.

I just don't want it to happen to anyone else. But it is, every day. I want to do everything I can to stop it. I think education, challenging assumptions, has the potential to save lives. It pains me to think of the world we are making for future generations. Humanity needs to change before it destroys itself.

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