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[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 124 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

the list for anyone wondering

Just know that everyone on that list is a violent extremist including me

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 4 hours ago

At this point they should just have a whitelist, that's a hell of a list! There's some users I recognise from my instance who are chill so I can't imagine how they ended up on this list.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 42 points 20 hours ago

I don't get it. Is this some personal vendetta the dev has? Have they really been in this many internet arguments? Where did this list come about and why?

[-] neuracnu 29 points 17 hours ago

Here's their full explanation: https://lemmy.world/post/49817942

It's pretty long and includes some insightful details about implementation (making the blocklist's usage at the discretion of the instance admin though not transparent of its contents and defaulting it to enabled) but this quote boils down the underlying sentiment pretty well:

“These are all rough edges of the threadiverse which I am attempting to round off so we might actually be able to retain some level headed people instead of scraping the bottom of the barrel by being a dumping ground for people rejected by civil society."

When you examine the list, by and large, it's pretty reasonable. Lots of false news, state propaganda, spammers, etc. But also the entire lemmy.blahaj.zone instance (where many of lemmy's trans denizens call home). We're included in what the lead developer describes as "bottom of the barrel" "people rejected by civil society."

Though I do fear the backlash. You've got a bunch of malicious spammers, hate-mongers and blackhat state actors who now have an open window to cause a lot of harm (harassment & general sowing of discontent) with the convenient smoke screen of upset trans folks who it can be blamed on.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

All of this shit falls flat when the dev themself admits they hid the feature to disable deep in the app and even called it "toxic mode". Is saying "perchance" toxic? Because that's one of their blocked phrases. Fuck no, it's not. This is just shit the personally dislike and put it in under the guise of making the fediverse more normie friendly.

As if silently hiding content with phrases like "perchance" and causing a massive drama makes the fediverse more normie friendly.

[-] prole 6 points 2 hours ago

“These are all rough edges of the threadiverse which I am attempting to round off

I'm a rough edge!

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Really? I'm malicious spammer, hate-monger or blackhat state actor? News to me, but good to know.

Though I do fear the backlash. You’ve got a bunch of malicious spammers, hate-mongers and blackhat state actors who now have an open window to cause a lot of harm (harassment & general sowing of discontent) with the convenient smoke screen of upset trans folks who it can be blamed on.

[-] RedSeries 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah that comment was about you specifically. Sorry you had to find out that way

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

We’re included in what the lead developer describes as “bottom of the barrel” “people rejected by civil society.”

That's fucked up. And he's the self-appointed "nice" [secret]police? Yikes.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 23 points 18 hours ago

some personal vendetta

Seems like it's hubris / arrogance - a poorly considered attempt to create some kind of ideal social experience.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

They thought they could covertly silence leftists and trans people. Par for the course with bigoted fascists.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Been reading up on it a bit, yeah, seems to be the case indeed. Shame it went that way for them.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 6 points 19 hours ago

They posted an explanation in the tesseract community, but it boils down to they want the fediverse to succeed and replace reddit, but there is a contingent of toxic users that they feel is hindering that goal so they precompiled a list for new instance admins.

It's fully optional and can easily be disabled in the UI

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 78 points 19 hours ago

It is not fully optional. It was obfuscated and unremovable. That's why the backlash has been so severe.

Not to mention, why should a user interface make that decision? That's up to individual server admins and their userbase.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago

Fully agree on the weirdness that this would somehow be the concern of a frontend. Nah brh. Very strange.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 9 points 19 hours ago

The author offers a lengthy explanation in their own words as to precisely why this was done. TLDR: people are free to stop using it, but he's making these changes because he wants to offer this service on behalf of those who don't enjoy all the toxicity here.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Your TLDR reeeeeeealllllly buries the lede.

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 39 points 19 hours ago

Lmfao. I didn't make it more than a few paragraphs because it's written with the maturity of a 10 year old in a chocolate sausage museum.

You can really tell they're up for an honest and open conversation with the community, really trying to improve the Fediverse, with their locking of all comments.

He's clearly the toxic one and is projecting his issues onto hundreds of others.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago

Lol. TIL I'm a violent extremist. Me. Boring, professional, suit wearing, family of four having, generic white guy.

The world this guy lives in must be truly weird.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 17 hours ago

Boring, professional, suit wearing, family of four having, generic white guy.

That is like the quintessential serial killer description by his neighbors.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

"It's the quiet ones you gotta watch" -George Carlin

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 7 points 17 hours ago

I mean, to be fair, here is that entire paragraph for context:

As will be explained further, there are 10 rules that are enforced, the biggest one being a very basic “don’t be a violent extremist”. That’s probably 30% of the list. Another 50% are just alts of Dwazou (persistent, long-term ban evader), and the remaining 20% just garden-variety spammers and toxic people who scare the normies away.

Based on this, it is much more likely that you are an alt of Dwazou. (Or maybe I am? 🤪 Statistically, between the three of us, you me and the author, ONE of us must be!!)

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago

Why are you talking to yourself? /j

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Maybe we both are. I'm not sure we'd know...

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[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 18 points 19 hours ago

THAT list is able to be disabled, though people are mad about its discoverability and transparency.

The OTHER list, the smaller instance-level one, reportedly cannot be disabled, seemingly the only recourse for those instances on it are to use his fork of the code.

This is from db0's reporting, I have not attempted to confirm personally, but I would be happy to be corrected if need be.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago

Holy fuck I made the list wow

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, I didn't know I had it in me! Death to Zionism. Such violence.

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

s/ism/ists/g

oops, made a violence

[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 21 points 20 hours ago

Hey, thanks. I had heard about the list but didn't know where to find it. Turns out I'm on it, too. Badge of honor.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 7 points 19 hours ago

Same. I even got a whole ass regex.

[-] newton@feddit.online 1 points 10 hours ago

Proof it,or shut up. /s

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 17 hours ago

First read as violet extremist and thought the blacklist was about armpit lickers.

[-] marduk@lemmy.today 4 points 17 hours ago

Not a single SDF user? I guess we're a peaceful bunch

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 1 points 20 minutes ago

Nah I got a regex on the list and I used to post as an SDF user (same name).

[-] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago

Maaaan guess I need to post more

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 20 hours ago

Tesseract dev: "I made a list of people who willfully misconstrue things to create drama and play the victim".

people on that list: "OHH WOW SO I'M A VIOLENT EXTREMIST NOW???"

[-] webadict@lemmy.world 38 points 19 hours ago

Are you trying to create drama and play the victim while complaining about other people supposedly creating drama and playing the victim?

They have a cure for that, it's called fucking off.

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[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 16 hours ago

did you read the devs reply?, He definitely wasn't saying this was for annoying people who misconstrue things

As will be explained further, there are 10 rules that are enforced, the biggest one being a very basic “don’t be a violent extremist”. That’s probably 30% of the list. Another 50% are just alts of Dwazou (persistent, long-term ban evader), and the remaining 20% just garden-variety spammers and toxic people who scare the normies away.

I'm not an alt of dwazou, or a spammer so guess that just leaves violent extremist.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

To the fascist nazi scumbag, “violent extremist” means anyone that opposes genocide, anyone that has espoused consequences for murder, torture, and oppression, or anyone that has ever made fun of Charlie “Goebbels” Kirk.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago

TIL the wholesome yuri community are violent extremists.

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[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 9 points 18 hours ago

IIRC they said that who is on the list is either extremist or toxic

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