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Just know that everyone on that list is a violent extremist including me
I don't get it. Is this some personal vendetta the dev has? Have they really been in this many internet arguments? Where did this list come about and why?
Here's their full explanation: https://lemmy.world/post/49817942
It's pretty long and includes some insightful details about implementation (making the blocklist's usage at the discretion of the instance admin though not transparent of its contents and defaulting it to enabled) but this quote boils down the underlying sentiment pretty well:
When you examine the list, by and large, it's pretty reasonable. Lots of false news, state propaganda, spammers, etc. But also the entire lemmy.blahaj.zone instance (where many of lemmy's trans denizens call home). We're included in what the lead developer describes as "bottom of the barrel" "people rejected by civil society."
Though I do fear the backlash. You've got a bunch of malicious spammers, hate-mongers and blackhat state actors who now have an open window to cause a lot of harm (harassment & general sowing of discontent) with the convenient smoke screen of upset trans folks who it can be blamed on.
That's fucked up. And he's the self-appointed "nice" [secret]police? Yikes.
Really? I'm malicious spammer, hate-monger or blackhat state actor? News to me, but good to know.
I'm a rough edge!
All of this shit falls flat when the dev themself admits they hid the feature to disable deep in the app and even called it "toxic mode". Is saying "perchance" toxic? Because that's one of their blocked phrases. Fuck no, it's not. This is just shit the personally dislike and put it in under the guise of making the fediverse more normie friendly.
As if silently hiding content with phrases like "perchance" and causing a massive drama makes the fediverse more normie friendly.
You're assuming his apologia is not disingenuous. The notes he added in the commit messages and the extent to which he blocked users who were indirectly implicated in his accusations don't line up with his explanations.
There's also the fact that much of it is caught under a very broad net of "promoting violence" without any examples provided of what constitutes such a thing. He used that exact explanation to justify banning blahaj.zone, where he said that some users did so and the admins did not act on it, which prompted him to blacklist the entire instance and the admins specifically.
This isn't even getting into the intentional inaccuracies about the nature of his "Toxic Mode", or his entire rant on db0 which is not only dishonest and weirdly personal, but also straight up lying about what happened and why. There's zero way to say that exposing his blacklist is "going Karen" like he did, and it's a straight lie to say that nobody had a problem with his blacklisting until db0 complained when the situation is that db0 made the existence of the blocklist known.
The philosophy of federation is that such whims should be openly handled on the federation level, not in a secret blacklist of a front end that was openly available to all.
Seems like it's hubris / arrogance - a poorly considered attempt to create some kind of ideal social experience.
Been reading up on it a bit, yeah, seems to be the case indeed. Shame it went that way for them.
They posted an explanation in the tesseract community, but it boils down to they want the fediverse to succeed and replace reddit, but there is a contingent of toxic users that they feel is hindering that goal so they precompiled a list for new instance admins.
It's fully optional and can easily be disabled in the UI
It is not fully optional. It was obfuscated and unremovable. That's why the backlash has been so severe.
Not to mention, why should a user interface make that decision? That's up to individual server admins and their userbase.
Fully agree on the weirdness that this would somehow be the concern of a frontend. Nah brh. Very strange.
The author offers a lengthy explanation in their own words as to precisely why this was done. TLDR: people are free to stop using it, but he's making these changes because he wants to offer this service on behalf of those who don't enjoy all the toxicity here.
Lmfao. I didn't make it more than a few paragraphs because it's written with the maturity of a 10 year old in a chocolate sausage museum.
You can really tell they're up for an honest and open conversation with the community, really trying to improve the Fediverse, with their locking of all comments.
He's clearly the toxic one and is projecting his issues onto hundreds of others.
Lol. TIL I'm a violent extremist. Me. Boring, professional, suit wearing, family of four having, generic white guy.
The world this guy lives in must be truly weird.
That is like the quintessential serial killer description by his neighbors.
"It's the quiet ones you gotta watch" -George Carlin
I mean, to be fair, here is that entire paragraph for context:
Based on this, it is much more likely that you are an alt of Dwazou. (Or maybe I am? 🤪 Statistically, between the three of us, you me and the author, ONE of us must be!!)
Maybe we both are. I'm not sure we'd know...
Why are you talking to yourself? /j
Your TLDR reeeeeeealllllly buries the lede.
THAT list is able to be disabled, though people are mad about its discoverability and transparency.
The OTHER list, the smaller instance-level one, reportedly cannot be disabled, seemingly the only recourse for those instances on it are to use his fork of the code.
This is from db0's reporting, I have not attempted to confirm personally, but I would be happy to be corrected if need be.
Hey, thanks. I had heard about the list but didn't know where to find it. Turns out I'm on it, too. Badge of honor.
Same. I even got a whole ass regex.
Holy fuck I made the list wow
Yeah, I didn't know I had it in me! Death to Zionism. Such violence.
s/ism/ists/g
oops, made a violence
First read as violet extremist and thought the blacklist was about armpit lickers.
Maaaan guess I need to post more
At this point they should just have a whitelist, that's a hell of a list! There's some users I recognise from my instance who are chill so I can't imagine how they ended up on this list.
Tesseract dev: "I made a list of people who willfully misconstrue things to create drama and play the victim".
people on that list: "OHH WOW SO I'M A VIOLENT EXTREMIST NOW???"
Are you trying to create drama and play the victim while complaining about other people supposedly creating drama and playing the victim?
They have a cure for that, it's called fucking off.
TIL the wholesome yuri community are violent extremists.
did you read the devs reply?, He definitely wasn't saying this was for annoying people who misconstrue things
I'm not an alt of dwazou, or a spammer so guess that just leaves violent extremist.
IIRC they said that who is on the list is either extremist or toxic
Not a single SDF user? I guess we're a peaceful bunch
How do I apply for the list
What the fuck did violet do to make the list?
I feel like one of the things he said was that he blacklisted people who "regularly post things normal people don't want to see" (or something along those lines). I assumed that was a blanket statement to cover Violet and anyone else whose posts have made him feel uncomfortable.
What an absolute snowflake.