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Just taking this opportunity to remind everyone that Louis C.K. has never made any tangible steps to make amends with the women he abused and yet he still goes on podcasts and talks about how the reporting on his sexual misconduct damaged his life and reputation as though he is the true victim
Source? From Wikipedia:
Yeah out of all of the people, Louis has done his best to make amends. He did wrong, but we shouldn't shame someone for apologizing and doing his best to make it right.
I loved his comedy before, and was heartbroken when I learned. I payer close attention to it. I believe what he said, he never even considered or thought about coersion, that the women weren't comfortable. He learned he was wrong and not knowing wasn't an excuse. Out of everyone, we should hope more men learn from Louis. He took the hard but honorable path. Is he fully redeemed? Only he can know, but he's working on it.
I disagree. Firstly, if you want a masterclass on repentance, see Dan Harmon's apology. Made actual tangible steps to better himself, and devoted an entire podcast episode to apologizing, and spent about 0 seconds of that podcast feeling sorry for himself or lamenting that he got caught, or complaining about the financial effect it had on him. Plus, he doesn't deny the story of the woman he harrassed.
None of this is true for Louis CK. He says "everything they say is true", but then every chance he gets on his gigantic public platform, he repeats the blatant lie that he got consent. He didn't. In none of the women he harrassed's stories, he asks for consent. They deny that he asked for consent. All of them. And in his "apologies" he keeps repeating that he asked for consent. That's not an apology, that's just a lie.
His "apologies" are mostly made up of three parts. The first is a sneaky denial of the victim's stories, the second he spends some time complaining about how this makes him feel, and how it affected him financially, and that he's looking to get back on top of things and better his situation. And then the third is where he explains that there's nothing he can do to make the world tangibly a better place (like, idk, staying the fuck away, donating to a charity for victims of sexual assault, trying to do anything to fix the careers he destroyed), and that all he can really do are these vague platitudes that help no one like (I wish I were making this up) "shaking one hand at a time".
It's hard for me to think of a worse realistic public apology. Maybe "I didn't do it, but I'm sorry if you feel I hurt you" although that's already pretty close to what Louis CK is doing.
Just going to add on, that in the YouTube series linked above that there is a direct comparison of how Loius and Dan Harmon both handled it and that you've summarized the differences quite well
Dan Harmon really is the gold standard on how to deal with that situation. I especially appreciate how his work after the fact is so heavily influenced by the changes he's made to himself.
This guy did a very long series of video Essays about why Louis behavior post accusations isn't so black and white.
https://youtu.be/93nMBtXVAfM
It's very long though.
I'm sure it isn't, nothing like this ever will be anything but shades of grey. Thanks, I'll check them out
I think he makes some very good points but I also think it could have been about 1/3 as long if it was better edited.
"without asking first" they said no, by the way. and he sexually harassed them anyway. he specifically crafts his words to make it sound like he got consent, when he very much didn't
I haven't heard this story. You got a link?
They didn't said no, they didn't say yes either. And he took the lack of negative as consent. He was wrong, and has since recognized as much and promised to be different. Dude is a creep but he is not nearly the worst. He has always agreed with the victim's recollection of the events and haven't tried to twist their words. He thought it was OK and he got consent, didn't realize he was wrong until later. In the history of the Me Too movement, he had the best reaction one could hope from an aggressor.
whoops my bad, i think i misremembered that they said no. they were stunned into silence and then he did it anyway. and then claimed that he always asked first, in order to minimise his responsibility.
In that case I think you should edit your comment to reflect that. Not least because this is apparently an "all claims, no sources" type of subject.
I have seen him on a few podcasts talking about his shame and steps he has taken to realise the full impact of what he did and how he has changed
Your comment does seem to confirm TheBlindPew's point, that it's all about him. Did he apologize to the women?
He did. Multiple times from what I understand.
From everything ive seen he's not actually apologized TO the women he abused, he has only ever really made public apologies where he says "this is all true, i thought I was okay by asking for consent beforehand" when there is credible reporting that on multiple occasions he did not even bother to ask for consent.
No idea, that not something most people would do publicly
He's a public figure who sexually assaulted public figures... In those situations, they usually do publicly apologize.
Well if you feel he hasn’t done enough you should probably avoid supporting him I guess
Pretty loose definition of sexual assault you are using also
this is 2026. nuance is gone in these times now. people are either 100% good or 100% evil.
no in between, anymore unfortunately.
Sorry, you think it's "unfortunate" that sex pests are being called out now? This isn't about someone being 100% good or evil at all, it's so much simpler than that.
The sex pest was called out. He lost multiple ongoing projects and hasn't had any notable work for literal years. He was never taken to court and has still apologized for both his behavior and directly to the women involved.
Clearly none of that is enough for most people, so what is enough do you think? Like, the man was no Weinstein; get real.
I think given the nature of the assault, he is probably alright to come back, honestly.
he's already been called out. you're making it sound like he raped babies or something.
people can change and rebuild their lives. and I think he's free to do that.
you can not like it. that's fine. just don't watch his stuff or follow him. its not rocket surgery.
There's also the fact that he also had to "apologize" for attempts to cover it up and make sure it didn't go public by pressuring victims (or had his manager doing it). Only apologized after someone finally did go public with evidence.
I honestly fucking hate that you're making me look this shit up and read about it again. It's was not just over the phone:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html
Sounds like he asked for consent to me
There is the question of if the power dynamic made it inappropriate obviously
Definitely not sexual assault in my eyes, watching someone jack off isn’t the end of the world, there is a reason there was no charges or conviction
Alright Louis, it’s time to log off.
For real though, this is some serious psychopath logic. Consent isn’t just merely asking the question of whether you can do what you want to do without even waiting for a clear-cut response. If I ask someone if I can break their phone, they laugh because they think I’m joking, and then I go and actually do it — guess what? There was never any consent.
There also literally could not be consent due to the nature of their relationship and the massive power imbalance. But I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain that to this person.
It sounds to me like he waited for consent and this is just her words
I don’t really want to live in a world where people are punished because people change their mind later after consenting to something
So essentially you're saying she was lying, or at least disingenuous. And that she "consented" but later changed her mind. I can't say I'm surprised you're of the crowd that gives the benefit of the doubt to sexual predators over victims, but it definitely doesn't make it any less jarring to see it so blatantly.
He never sexually assaulted anyone and was punished plenty
Not calling anyone a liar but I can’t come to the same conclusion as you reading what was said
Stop trying to paint me as someone other than reasonable, I’m just not an over zealous social justice warrior
Cool.
I hope you're never in a position where the person with an inordinate amount of power over your career puts you into a situation like that.
Hint: There cannot be consent here due to the power imbalance.
Even if that wasn't true, what you just described isn't consent. I fear for every young woman that comes in contact with you.
Of course they can, get real
Other female comedians have come forward and said it happened to them and it was consensual and they didn’t care
Good for them
No, they can't. It's fucking alarming that so many people can't seem to grasp this.
There is a reason why teachers are not allowed to have sex with their 18 year old students.
Two arguably consenting adults cannot be compared to a teacher / student relationship
What planet do you live on?
An 18 year old can consent though? Why wouldn't they be able to have sex with their teacher?
Go ahead, you're so close...
That case is fine, but definitely wasn’t what was implied
Well, shit. I didn’t know it was that bad. I apologize for my ignorance. You are right about him.
https://feddit.nu/comment/21071506
I mean in fairness he was the one on the podcast and was potentially asked about it... I have no idea what he did or didn't with the women but I would hope he has tried to apologize personally
Crazy how many people below you are defending this piece of shit and regurgitating the lies he's spread over the years. It's just pathetic.