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[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 89 points 2 days ago

Nobody dresses fancy anymore.

I was at the Plaza Hotel in New York a while back. One of the most expensive and storied places in the world, and pretty much every guest I saw had brought their clothes at The Gap.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

Fashion is cringe and try hard. Intentionally slotting yourself into a wealth ranking based on some cloth and a watch isn't the flex you think it is. All it tells me is that you can't afford the next tier of clothing.

At least $18 sweatpants in an $800 hotel gives a bit of mystery.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 77 points 2 days ago

Why would you dress up for a hotel?

When traveling "looking fancy" is the last thing I care about.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 43 points 2 days ago

Nobody dresses fancy anymore.

Thank you for proving my point

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 days ago

If you expect them to dress up for no reason, sure.

Go where people actually have a reason to care and you'll find them...

[-] heh@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It is expected to dress up for high end dining…. Even when traveling. It’s not “no reason”

That’s the point OP is making. Nobody is dressing up.

[-] MightBeAlpharius@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Last time I went to a nice restaurant, my wife and I were the only ones dressed nicely.

She wore a nice dress, I wore a shirt & tie; the entire rest of the restaurant was enjoying $75 entrees in designer athlesiure outfits.

[-] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Only 75 dollars? Where did you go? Olive Garden?

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I think ties have fallen out of fashion. At least in business dress. Button up shirt, nice slacks and a sport coat, all tailored. You have to specify black tie if you want people in fancy dress.

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[-] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago

I don't dress up for fine dining. Nobody cares.

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I would dress fancy if the world were worthy of it.

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[-] MBech@feddit.dk 13 points 2 days ago

But why would you dress fancy for a hotel? Most of the time it's just less comfortable than jeans and a t-shirt. Not to mention the cost of dressing fancy.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago

Look at pictures from back in the day.

People used to wear suits and ties / dresses and jewelry if they were going out to dinner, or getting on an airplane.

Also, the Plaza is a very expensive hotel. If someone can afford to spend the night here they can afford decent clothes.

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 11 points 2 days ago

Sure, but why? What is the point in wearing decent clothes when other clothes are often quite a lot more comfortable. I'm not here to impress people with my clothes, I'm here to get on with my day/holiday/escort, not brighten some hotel lobby with an expensive suit.

[-] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago

That just used to be the social norms in the past. At one point, it was expected that you had to wear a hat when going outdoors by default. When we were young we used to tie an onion to our belt, which was the style at the time. Things change over time.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

The Plaza is more than a place to crash. There is the Palm Court and a number of bougee things going on there. I would argue that more that half of the folks using those hotel amenities are not staying the night. They’re there for special occasions.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I'm glad that pretending to be fancy is falling out of fashion. It's extremely uncomfortable (save me the speech about how I need a well fitting suit or whatever, no thanks) and it's expensive (very much in conflict with your claim below that it's cheap to dress up. I'm not sure how you could possibly believe that). As someone who routinely dresses comfortably af, nothing was lost when people stopped dressing up randomly such as on airplanes. Being comfortable is very important to some people, especially those on the spectrum. I've got nothing to prove to people by being uncomfortable. I'll keep wearing gym shorts on a plane and I literally feel for people wearing suits as I know how uncomfortable every aspect of it is.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wish I didn't love wearing suits, but I do. I used to get to/have to wear them for work and I never get to or have a good reason/excuse anymore. And now I don't even own a basic blazer. I had a whole closet of bomb-ass blazers. It was so good.

When I was a programmer I liked wearing suits and sport jackets and Norwegian wool sweaters and selvedge jeans and the like, even though it negatively impacted my career. People in my profession genuinely assumed that I must not have been a very good programmer because of it. Now I'm a school bus driver and whenever I dress like I used to (which is very rarely) everybody assumes I have a job interview or a date.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

It's also too hot. Dress shirts that feel like the Boston Strangler has both his mitts around my neck, and that's before the tie. Shirts that are 2XL wide but medium length that don't fit my pre-human simian torso proportions. Pants that don't conform to my pic-nic ham butt and my stumpy legs. Ridiculous suits with sewn shut pockets and buttons you can't use and if you do you look like you're about to turn into the Hulk. Shoes that blister and tear your skin in 10 minutes even though I can hike for 5 hours.

I dress borderline homeless now.

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[-] Hackworth@piefed.ca 32 points 2 days ago

I used to occasionally go to nightclubs in LA with some older guys that insisted on wearing nice, fitted suits. They actually bought me one when I first moved out there. If I was in a nightclub in my 20's, it was usually cause I was working. So I don't really have much to compare the experience to. But I'd say they were attention-getting - not necessarily in a good way. One dude tried to start a fight with me. And a girl I texted afterward was surprised to discover that I was, in fact, quite poor. That was a while ago. I have plenty of suits now. I never wear them. I guess nobody dresses fancy anymore.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago

I was at a funeral recently where about 1 in 10 people were wearing cargo shorts or jeans, a graphic tee or a polo shirt, and sneakers.

Not that I think we should go back to dressing in powdered wigs and hose but I think there is room for clothing choices to mark an occasion

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Depends on context. For my grandmother, I wore a black dress. For my boyfriend, a bunch of us wore replicas of his favorite tshirt.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

the family of the deceased (35, sudden heart failure from undiagnosed blood pressure condition) were in suits. It was at a crematorium with a flavor of traditional Vietnamese traditions. No dress code was specified.

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[-] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

I do not like NYC “dress code”. I went to a cocktail bar and they asked me to keep my jacket on because I had a t shirt. The cocktails were only $15-17. Not even fancy! Is my money worth less that I’m wearing jeans or a tshirt?

This is why I love Seattle. Everywhere allows tshirts and jeans no matter how fancy. I’m comfy and spending money.

[-] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

"Only 15-17$" Does everyone there has a 6 figure income or how can this bar survive lol

[-] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

I’m from Seattle so that’s not even a crazy cocktail cost. And I think you need a six figure income to survive in NYC.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago

$15.00 for a cocktail??

I'm glad I don't drink...

[-] hovercat 7 points 2 days ago

That's not even horrifically expensive in most cities. I've seen people pay $20/shot at some bars.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They are guests of a hotel, not on some kind of event.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

I think one reason I noticed it was that there were photos on the wall showing all the famous guests who'd stayed there. All dressed up. It made no sense to me that people who are going to take the time and trouble to stay in a glamourous place wouldn't try to look their best.

[-] trublu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

This sounds like peer pressure from dead people and enforced reverence for fancy shit. I dress for my comfort, not conformance to some rich guy's standard.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

If you're such an independent thinker you wouldn't want to stay at the Plaza. It's much more expensive and exclusive than other accommodations in the same area.

I'm talking about folks who paid to go there specifically because of the 'dead people.'

[-] trublu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Right, I wouldn't want to be there. If I am ever in any kind of place that expects me to look a certain way, I want to leave. Take me as I am in my solid color tank top and shorts or fuck off.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

My original post was that people at the expensive hotel weren't dressing up.

Apparently you either didn't read it, or chose to ignore it.

You can go to the hotel and spend the money, and dress any way you want.

I see you are full of rage, but who you're mad at is a mystery.

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[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's apparently a local custom in Texas to go to a wedding dressed in blue jeans, a white shirt, your boots and whatever cowboy hat you wear. Meanwhile everyone else who doesn't know what fucking a cow feels like is wearing at least a tie.

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