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[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

Hmm. The Lemmy antivax crowd.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

"Crowd" being, in this case, one guy lol

[-] casualvagrancy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Decades of doctors, researchers, and Nobel prize winning immunologists willing to endure endless derision and destroy their careers.

Hundreds of thousands of parents with identical stories.

But we’re just the antivax crowd. Smart people believe the ads on TV.

[-] oyo@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

Decades is a way to count people now? I think the number you're looking for is 2%.

[-] casualvagrancy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t know where you got the 2% number and I think the real number is probably a lot higher, but let’s assume that number is right for a moment. I know what you’re probably thinking because I used to think the same thing. IF vaccines were not as safe and effective as claimed, that number would be a lot higher than 2%. Four vaccines to cause SIDS, cancer, autoimmune diseases, autism, etc. that would mean that a massive amount of very smart people we’re either dumb or lying.

It seems inconceivable. But, the pharmaceutical industry is incomprehensively, wealthy and powerful in part because they own or effectively own pretty much every major scientific and medical journal and every med school and medical textbook. And they have a government that mandates their products and protects them from lawsuits. You can’t sue a vaccine manufacturer.

Under those circumstances, at least one and 50 medical professionals is screaming from the rooftops that vaccines are not safe, even when the industry is dedicated to destroying their careers and reputations for doing so and is willing to throw essentially unlimited money at it.

And there’s the fact that every study done that truly compared vaccinated and unvaccinated, such as the recent Henry Ford health study, has found that the vaccinated had significantly higher rates of every disease studied. Whereas the unvaccinated had close to zero.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I didn't take the vaccine at first because they pushed it as having "no potential risks". Every medical procedure has risks, so I knew they were bullshitting and was therefore unwilling to risk it. Mind you I worked through the entire pandemic as essential medical personnel (running a weed dispensary lmao)

Eventually, accurate risk information about the myocarditis / etc became available. That actually made me more comfortable because at least it was fucking honest. So I could evaluate, what is likely to cause me more harm, the vaccine or COVID?

The clear, science-based answer is COVID. You aren't a free thinker, you just opted into a different lane of dogma.

[-] casualvagrancy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You know that phrase when people show you who they are believe them? You knew they were lying. They told you they knew for sure it was safe and you knew they couldn’t know that. Then they admitted a little bit that it might be a little bit unsafe, and suddenly you trusted them?

Imagine a wife, who knows that her husband has cheated on her with dozens of women. She knows that he is currently sneaking out behind her back again and confront him. After some arguing and denial, he eventually admits that he did see another woman, but insists that they only kissed. Should she believe him?

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's

not a remotely comparable analogy lol

[-] casualvagrancy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Someone lied to you. Then they sort of quietly admitted a tiny part of it when called out. You believed them.

There’s gullible written on the ceiling.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I could not be less concerned with your approval lmao

[-] casualvagrancy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yet that you took the time to tell me that would indicate otherwise.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] casualvagrancy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Did you have a question? Or is the question mark because you need my approval?

this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2026
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