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submitted 1 week ago by choihanna@lemmy.zip to c/mtf

As another trans woman it has been so hard for me to connect with other trans women because of this.

I'm very critical of men and the way they behave in our society, and my cis girl friends and gay male friends almost always agree.

Now every time I bring this up to trans friends they jump to defend men, girl why are you defending men when they're literally the ones killing trans women and cis women at exponential rates and you're telling me that men don't have a problem??

I genuinely don't understand that need they have to defend men...

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[-] choihanna@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How exactly is this antagonistic? I'm only asking because as trans women we suffer from men's toxic behaviors more than anyone but I still meet a significant amount of trans women who will try to deny that society makes men commit most of the terrible stuff happening in the world.

It does frustrate me, what can I say 🤷🏻‍♀️ men are literally taking everything away from us I don't think they need to be defended.

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

You might wanna lookup the Apex Fallacy, because you're spreading it all over, intentionally, or not.

[-] isleepinahammock 6 points 1 week ago

I assume you don't. But many of the people who say things like "all men are terrible" include trans women in their definition of "men." Also, trans people certainly understand getting scapegoated for your gender or apparent gender for reasons completely beyond your control.

I'm a trans woman. I identify as a woman. I've dealt with my share of terrible men. But for the first part of my life I wasn't out and I did present as male. And when people said, "all men or terrible," they didn't know what was in my heart. They could go only by my outward appearance. That "all men" included me. And until you came out, when a woman looked across a crowd and said, "all men or terrible," she included you as well.

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