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[-] fluke@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm of the opinion that COVID is no longer news worthy beyond the minority it impacts. No different to the flu or various other low risk (to the vast majority) common community transmitted illnesses. It just is now. We don't get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I don't see the point for COVID.

Edit: some good discussion in the responses to this. But also some utterly dog shit ad hominem and trying to put words in my mouth. If only they bothered to actually read what I wrote.

[-] t_var_s@lemmy.ml 94 points 1 year ago

The covids have unexpected health consequences that are way beyond the scope of the flu, including heart conditions, and chronic respiratory problems.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 44 points 1 year ago

Yeah, long COVID seems to hit people randomly, and it seems even vaccination status doesn't make a huge difference.

[-] TwanHE@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

And before you know it you've spent a year in bedcare.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's not totally random. I've noticed it affects self-centered and narcissistic people more frequently, almost like it's one more justification to be a perpetual victim.

[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Didn't think I'd see the "disabled people are just looking for attention" card being played on Lemmy but here we are.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think they're saying that unvaccinated people are more likely to get more severe cases of covid and therefore are more likely to get long covid.

[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know what's wild? My alzheimer's patients almost always have the most healthy bodies and rarely complain about pain. They're not overweight. They don't get CHF. They pass through COVID and other illnesses with mild symptoms.

Your simplified strawman contains a seed of truth.

[-] thepixelfox@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

Ah yes. Your tiny sample size.

From a disabled person. Fuck off. COVID sucked and continues to affect me.

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[-] Kichae@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

"I only hear about things from people who talk about things"

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

It seems that way if you don't know anything, yes.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The original strain, yes. The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it. It's become a minor cold to the vast majority of the human population.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41431-022-01141-7

[-] charliespider@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

Did you post the wrong link?

You can't just say some bullshit then post a link and think it backs up what you've said. That paper explores the genetic predisposition to COVID susceptibility and not:

The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it.

Is there like one sentence in that paper you've latched onto that you think justifies your bad take?

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[-] GordomeansPhat@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Did you read the article you posted? I read the overview and intro and really didn't seem to support your statement.

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[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

"Some of you may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take" -- @fluke@lemmy.world

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.

For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.

[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Being the 4th leading cause of death in 2022 is far from "posing no issues"

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.

[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

The bulk of "unintentional accidents" are motor vehicle fatalities, which are actually extremely significant in America. Though I don't really want to get into whether or not the blood price of not giving a shit about the ongoing pandemic is a bargain, because that seems to be morally reprehensible in any event.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Unintentional Motor vehicle accidents: 45,404

Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686

Unintentional Poison deaths: 102,001

[-] charliespider@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

First you post:

186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023

Then you post:

Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686

Which most certainly includes "Slipping on a wet floor" but is like one quarter the number of COVID deaths you yourself just posted!

You're obviously upset about COVID and whatever impact it had on your life but posting bullshit just makes you look like an idiot. At least read the things you post, and maybe also try not to completely contradict yourself sentence to sentence.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Showing what unintentional means, falls are a large part of it. Cherry-pick all you like, it doesn't change the subject.

[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Bruh you're the one who cherry-picked "falls" and represented it as more common than COVID. đź’€

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[-] JohnEdwa@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don't necessarily die to it any more doesn't mean it "poses no issues".

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Why is death your only metric?

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[-] DrinkBoba@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

You’re an idiot. A neighbor down the road just died of it last week. 45 years old with a 6 year old little girl. Fuck you.

[-] Kichae@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

Hey look, it's one of those "This doesn't affect me, so why should I give a shit?" types! With enough training, they evolve into "Why didn't anyone warn me??!?" types.

[-] Ranman@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] thepixelfox@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

COVID is still a pretty new thing. The whole shit storm was only 3 years ago. Flu has been around for fkn ages now, so it's just a common thing. Where we can predict mutations and how they'll effect people and spread. So it's not really a concern, it's just get your flu jab this year.

Whereas we're still researching COVID and learning about it. The mutations are different with different effects.

Until it hits normality like flu, and predictability like flu, it's good to keep people in the know.

I'm thankful it's still being reported about. As someone with a disability that weakens my immune system, I'm glad to see new vaccines or research into it. I got Omicron, thankfully I'd been vaccinated, cause even with the vaccine it sucked for me. And there was some weird AF symptoms, like the air just smelled like cheese, that one really threw me off. But had I not been vaccinated, who knows just how bad it would have gotten.

And then there's long COVID, we don't get long flu. COVID had an effect on my disability and I've felt worse since getting it.

So it's not just as easy as saying but the flu. They're two different things with different effects and predictability levels and research done into them. So instead of complaining that there's still stuff being written about it, be thankful it's being taken seriously so it can eventually just be a background thing that's akin to flu.

[-] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, coronaviruses are not new as a whole, lots of things fall under that class, but this particular one and the offshoots are just particularly troublesome. More problematic than the virus itself though is the social shit it stirred up where you have a certain segment that seem intent on actively trying to spread it to others, or at least being completly indifferent to it just to say and claim how tough and right they are about it. Stop coughing and sneezing on people all, it wasn't acceptable before this covid, still not now.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine

we should. you should be made aware of new things that can affect your health and well-being. we would all do better if we were informed.

[-] Overzeetop@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

We do; I see them every year. Whether I'm travelling or just trying not to be sick (which costs me money since I don't get paid sick leave), knowing what is "out there" is pretty useful information. By the time flu vaccines start rolling out there's usually a round of articles on what the tri/quadvalent covers and the severity anticipated based on worldwide transmissions.

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