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New Covid vaccines are on the way as 'Eris' variant rises
(www.reuters.com)
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1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.
For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.
Being the 4th leading cause of death in 2022 is far from "posing no issues"
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.
The bulk of "unintentional accidents" are motor vehicle fatalities, which are actually extremely significant in America. Though I don't really want to get into whether or not the blood price of not giving a shit about the ongoing pandemic is a bargain, because that seems to be morally reprehensible in any event.
Unintentional Motor vehicle accidents: 45,404
Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686
Unintentional Poison deaths: 102,001
First you post:
Then you post:
Which most certainly includes "Slipping on a wet floor" but is like one quarter the number of COVID deaths you yourself just posted!
You're obviously upset about COVID and whatever impact it had on your life but posting bullshit just makes you look like an idiot. At least read the things you post, and maybe also try not to completely contradict yourself sentence to sentence.
Showing what unintentional means, falls are a large part of it. Cherry-pick all you like, it doesn't change the subject.
Bruh you're the one who cherry-picked "falls" and represented it as more common than COVID. 💀
Falls are a common cause of death for the elderly is why. The same group at risk of covid are also the same group likely to die from falling.
Immunocompromised people exist at every age. People with asthma exist at every age. And 150k dead per year is not a small number.
I don't even understand what you're trying to argue, as if it would be less worth fighting if it only slaughtered the elderly. What a horrible standard and a horrible message to send about the kind of society you'd like to live in.
Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don't necessarily die to it any more doesn't mean it "poses no issues".
I don't think anyone is saying it doesn't pose an issue with 6%, they are saying it does pose and issue for the other 94%.
Only if the 94% are now completely immune to long covid and wouldn't suffer from it if they do get covid in the future. If that's the case, then the risks really are only the tiny chance of dying to it, usually requiring being immunocompromised or unvaccinated. Otherwise there is also always the additional, orders of magnitude higher risk that you get long covid, and with that comes the risk that you might get stuck to your bed not being able to do anything for over a year for example.
Using the numbers from your other comment, for those 45000 deaths by motor vehicle accidents you also have the over 2 million injuries and disabilities that didn't kill anyone, some of them permanent and debilitating. The risk of death is only one number among many.
Why is death your only metric?
There is a metric for sniffles?
So the only two possibilities for COVID are "sniffles" and "death?" No other possibilities?
Really bad sniffles? It's not anything to worry about anymore. Nature will do it's thing and the human population moves on.
COVID used up all of my sick time when I had it earlier this year because I was out for a week. It gave me symptoms that are still ongoing. I can't get a full night's sleep because I wake up coughing every night. That's "really bad sniffles" to you?
With the ability to leap that far you should consider the Olympics.