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[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 38 points 1 month ago

Looking at the comments here, even here in the Fediverse, it's quite easy to understand how the US regime is possible despite its completely obvious depravity.

[-] starik@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

We don’t need to manufacture grievance to criticize our government and institutions. In fact, it weakens our case when we do so.

The top comment outlines some very reasonable explanations for the difference in phrasing between the two headlines. If you’re always assuming the worst possible motivations, people aren’t going to take you seriously.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 month ago

I’m sure the newspaper that cheerleaded us into the Iraq war and is owned by a board of billionaires is following only the strictest code of ethics when it comes to reporting on American warmongering.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

If you’re always assuming the worst possible motivations, people aren’t going to take you seriously.

When it comes to corporate news sewers, you’re barking in the wrong toilet.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

We don’t need to manufacture grievance to criticize our government and institutions. In fact, it weakens our case when we do so.

said as if the government has ever been held accountable...

people aren’t going to take you seriously.

apologists are never taken seriously

[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago

I have given up hope that the US population can be counted on. They have allowed too many atrocities to happen, and it is equally obvious that they will not even act for their own sake.

I simply do not accept arguments such as "there is no evidence," because only the worst can be expected from the US - the evidence is the president who leads the US.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

What are you doing to stop fascism in your country?

[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

I vote and regularly attend protests, but lately I've also been pointing out to people on social media that whataboutism is not very effective.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Says the person who screams and insults, "Do something!" all while probably not even a US citizen and gives no advice.

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you’re always assuming the worst possible motivations, people aren’t going to take you seriously.

You're talking about motivations? Seriously? These mother fuckers have done so much worse than this and it's us that shouldn't be taken seriously?

Why don't you crawl up that ass of yours a little more.

it weakens our case when we do so.

What case? When have you cowards have held your government responsible for any of unprovoked attacks, invasion, regime changes, massacre abroad?

That boot must taste really good, huh?

[-] starik@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

The idea that somebody else might not take the same, obviously bad faith interpretation of a pair of headlines worked you up into that much of a lather?

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 5 points 1 month ago

How dare you run defense for the imperialist americans?

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's "quite easy to understand" because that's how the Dunning–Kruger effect works: the less you know, the more simplistic your understanding of a system, and the easier it is to confidently make bullshit claims and pretend you know what you're talking about.

[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 20 points 1 month ago

Yes, I'm simplistic when it comes to this: I wouldn't accept being ruled by organized crime that covers up its heinous crimes by starting a war. But hey, it's nice that you know the names of two renowned psychologists.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it’s nice that you know the names of two renowned psychologists.

The painfully unearned smarm almost masks the way you have no idea how any of this works and just want to manufacture a reason to be mad at the NYT's coverage of the Middle East – coverage that already has a million provable things to be mad at (of which that link is just a small sample). You're trying to perform alchemy in a fucking gold mine, and it's baffling.

[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

Please explain it to me. And by that I don't mean a general explanation of how journalism works, because I probably know a whole lot more about that than you do, but an explanation of why you believe that the US, together with Israel, should not be held responsible for the murder of innocent children. And then I would also like to know what your motivation is for defending the current US regime, because I don't understand it.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Please explain it to me. Not the actual thing we're talking about, because I actually don't care to consider why I might be wrong, but about this batshit strawman argument I created."

Checking off all the boxes. If you want to talk to someone who's whatever you tell them they are, then fuck off to ChatGPT, you clown.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

So, to recap, this thread started with a passive-aggressive accusation, you backed it up with another passive-aggressive comment, somebody responded to you, and then you got mad at them for being angry about the wrong thing (without, y'know, actually saying what they should be mad about!)

Why not just state your opinion? Why all this beating around the bush?

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