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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

Well at least we got rid of Biden.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 65 points 4 weeks ago

Bidens why we're here dude.

If instead of insisting Biden be the candidate from 2023-2024, if we could have had a real primary, quite literally ALL of this could have been prevented.

[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 61 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

And if they hadn't put their thumb on the scale for Hillary in 2016, and she hadn't decided to reach for some imaginary middle razor thin between corporate liberals and fascists, Trump would just be another dumb clown that tried to be a Republican presidential candidate.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Ten years later and you’re still talking about Bernie losing the primary.

[-] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 45 points 4 weeks ago

I feel that, for a lot of folks, he was the last candidate that promised an actual brighter future to believe in. It's a shame corporate donors pushed him out of the race, as it left a lot of folks feeling that their voices would never be heard. I think it's even fair to say that his dismissal by the Democrat party directly led to the voter resentment that helped Trump win the elections.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah I get he lost and people are sad but the next step is to move on instead of letting what’s happening happen.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The DNC literally admitted to braking it own rules and cheating for Hillary in court.

Your bullshit here that Bernie couldn't win the primary so he wouldn't win the general is post-hoc rationalization of the DNC being an undemocratic institution and justifying their theft of the party.

Without addressing that theft, no primary in the world will fix this.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago

The Democrat party sucks. But at this point it only matters to historians. Sure it's good to remember how America got into this mess but right now it's more important to figure out how to get out of it. I hope there's no more republican or Democrat party after this

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

First step is not putting your hope that the people who got you into this mess who have every reason to not try and get you out this mess, can and will fix it.

Part of the purpose of consequences is to stop the damage.

Obama's whole "Lets not look backward" schtick is what allowed every single person responsible for the Iraq war and 2008 financial crisis, and the 2010 foreclosure-fraud crisis to maintain their positions of power.

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[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago

Your wish is halfway granted. There is no party called the “Democrat party” in the US

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Them saying that they are a private institution and make their own rules isn’t quite saying what Trump and co told you it meant.

It was the easiest legal argument to make.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

A private organization until it is time for federal funding.

Fuck off, pathetic defender of oligarchy.

Edit: If the corruption of the DNC was purely an invention of Trump, DWS wouldn't have lost her position and DB wouldn't have lost her job.

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[-] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 5 points 4 weeks ago

Ah, but we must move on from that as well. The important stuff to pay attention to will only begin in 2032. Nothing until then matters.

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[-] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Absolutely did. A TON of Bernie bros would go on to vote for Trump, and Trump ran on a platform of "establishment bad," so having his opponent be the MOST establishment option, who just won their primary through interference by the establishment could not have been better. Not to mention that the Hillary campaign and DNC SUPPORTED Trump's run until he won the primary

[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 24 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

In a discussion about Democrats fucking up running against Trump? Yeah, that's what the adults are doing here, kiddo.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 points 4 weeks ago
[-] cheffrey@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 weeks ago

Fair point mr satansmaggotycumfart

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

i mean sure most of my comments are at the maturity level of a 12 year old but occasionally i pop out something where i remember i'm in my 40s. i think. i haven't done the math in a while.

[-] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 14 points 4 weeks ago

MAGA/Trump is still complaining about Obama, tan suits and Nobel Peace Prizes. Your point being?

[-] grumpusbumpus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, because if we weren't captured by a single-party corporate system we wouldn't be in this mess. Reactionary fascism arises from the material immiseration of the people. If the Democrats were beholden to improving the lives of citizens rather than clinging to power and corporate interests, we would not be in this mess.

[-] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 15 points 4 weeks ago

Don't excuse these Nazi's actions by pointing at Biden. Biden didn't turn them into Nazis.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago

But Biden's poor management of the Democrats let the Nazis take power.

Any asshole trying to be President over 70 is a problem.

[-] HarneyToker@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

“It’s not the bad guys’ faults, it’s the fault of everyone else for not stopping the bad guys.”

You are an ass hat.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Nothing about criticizing the one person who held the power to stop this all from happening, is an argument in support of the fascists

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

I’m pretty sure you’d all would have found a problem with whoever was chosen though.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

Ok. So you are a cynic for whom no answer is going to be good enough.

Maybe just don't share any of your perspectives or opinions in the future then, considering the manner of your opinion did direct harm to our ability to stop Trump when we had the chance?

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

No I think I’ll continue thanks for the advice though!

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

So you don't disagree that your actions supported Trumps re-election, and you plan on continuing them?

You should focus on poop jokes.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

I voted for Clinton, Biden and Harris.

They all ran against him.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

Its not about who you voted for. Its about what you do with your words, here.

You are doing work that directly contributes to fascists winning. So just keep it to your fucking self.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

I just explained that I voted against the fascists and that’s what I’ve said too.

Do you not agree that people should vote Democrat for the upcoming midterms?

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I think people who spent 18 months berating people, so they could run a guy who was so utterly incoherent he didn't even know the names of his own policies on stage; I think those people are largely responsible for why fascism has emerged in this country, regardless of how they individually voted. You spent well over a year using your rhetoric in a way that directly contributed to fascism taking over in this country, and hiding behind your identity as a democrat wont change that.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Biden made more sense than Trump does.

Harris was even better than Biden as a last minute pick.

[-] prole 2 points 4 weeks ago

Its not about who you voted for. Its about what you do with your words, here.

Lol call me crazy, but I think who they voted for is much more important

[-] whereIsTamara@lemmy.org 4 points 4 weeks ago

Well, I guess we showed those dems what they get. Too bad there won’t be another election. Gosh, wish we all knew that was coming.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

the extremists love a good war eh?

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