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[-] applebusch 28 points 2 days ago

So... I wonder what genetic advantage women have that warrants excluding them from... men's basketball. Yeah you know women are just naturally better at basketball so we better exclude them from playing with the men so the men don't get dunked on too hard. Oh their birth certificate says they were born a girl so they are ineligible from playing with the boys... because of the inherent genetic gift for basketball all women are born with. Totally. It's not just about hurting trans people. Nope not even one bit... It's totally about... fair competition...

[-] hildegarde 9 points 2 days ago

The people writing these laws don't even know that trans men exist. There is no logic beyond it. Most anti-trans sports bans just go with the birth certificate because that targets transfems, and doesn't take further thought.

If their goal was fairness, and they genuinely believed that being trans gives an unfair advantage at every sport, they would make the men's division open to all, and the women's division only allow cis women under the strictest possible definition. But they don't do that. They are transphobes. That's their only motivation.

[-] marcela 3 points 18 hours ago

TBF I have been following similar discussions a lot, and a lot of them say this exactly. That the two categories are open and female. So perhaps this isn't the gotcha you think it is.

A better example is chess: How can one demand segregation in chess without being sexist about intelligence? Press button hard choice meme for TERFs. The female league in chess exists due to social factors hindering women. So even in this case, trans / gender diverse people belong to the protected category, as they also belong in the protected bathrooms.

Apart from that, I don't see how going with the birth certificate targets TW disproportionately?

[-] hildegarde 1 points 13 hours ago

Not a gotcha at all. It shows that it is a reasonable rule if the premises behind it are true.

The fact that state, local, or district lawmakers write laws that don't do that shows that their motivations are not fairness, but transphobia alone.

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