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[-] belluck 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Where is this specifically islamophobia rather than just anti-religiousness?

[-] princessnorah 8 points 4 days ago

It being a response to an article about a muslim woman???

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

And they mention two other religions, and criticise religion generally. This is not targeted at Islam specifically and exclusively.

[-] princessnorah 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't buy that. The comment is in response to this article. Generalising it doesn't make it less prejudice. That's like saying it's not antisemitic to walk into a* synagogue and start shouting about how all religion is evil.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

No, it isn't. You're just being reactionary.

You made up a completely separate scenario that involves an individual going to a specific location to target a specific group of people.

In this scenario, a person saw a random article in their feed that happens to mention the legislator's faith. And that person commented generally on all faith (but especially Abrahamic faiths) being dangerous.

They didn't seek out an article about muslims to target muslims.

If the article was about a Jewish legislator or Christian legislator where their faith is directly mentioned in the headline, the comment's intent and meaning would remain identical.

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago

"I saw a random place of worship and wandered right in."

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

That's just intellectual dishonesty. Stop coping and grow up.

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago

I'm the one coping? You managed to be that upset at me you replied in two different comment chains.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Ironic and hypocritical that you would call me out for something you did in the same comment chains.

stop coping and grow up.

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago
[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

me when I can't argue anything of substance against the smarter person but I still want to be willfully ignorant and keep doing the stupid shit I'm doing

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago
[-] mathemachristian 2 points 3 days ago
[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

:3 "i can't win an argument with substance so instead I'll just have my friends come defend me with memes"

ok pal. love u.

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago

big all [minority] people know each other energy

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Cry more. What minority group, trans? Same, sister! So maybe why don't you keep to relevant arguments, maybe?

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago

You're the one that assumed a fellow Blahajian was my friend ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah for sure, I totally believe that you two don't know each other lol. Good cover!

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago

There's like 10k users on blahaj, besides I thought you were very smart?

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Btw, let me be clear:

I'm not smart.

Just smarter relative to you.

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago

Sure, sure, whatever you say.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

i miss u can we end on good terms

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, the fact that you're from the same instance is why I think you two know each other. Not the fact that you're both active at the same time, responding to me in tandem, and going several comments deep in different comment threads to defend each other against me. How many comments deep were we when your friend responded to me the first time, again?

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 3 days ago

Two people online at the same time disagreeing with you?? Even though you are soooooo much smarter?? Why it's a conspiracy I tells ya!

Or maybe you're the dumbest person here. Certainly the loudest. Are you by chance a CS major?

[-] princessnorah 3 points 3 days ago

Why, pray tell, would I bother? I was already shitposting in response to you. I think you just have a highly inflated ego 🤭

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 3 days ago

I dont even know Norah but she clearly made a more substantive argument, that you just accused of "intellectual dishonesty" and declared yourself the "smarter" person, get some perspective lol

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Did she? Did she make a substantive argument? Pretty sure she just said some stupid shit comparing intentionally walking into a specific place of worship with an article being in someone's feed. They're not really comparable for, well, a LOT of reasons. So no, she didn't say anything substantive to me.

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 3 days ago

Yes she did. She did make a substantive argument. Pretty sure she just said some clever shit comparing intentionally walking into a specific place of worship with intentionally walking into a specific article in someone’s feed. They’re really comparable for, well, a LOT of reasons. So yes, she did say something substantive to me.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Hang on, gotta triple comment because holy shit this is just staggering.

If you think deliberately physically transporting yourself to a location to enact a show of hatred is the same as leaving a comment on an article that popped into your feed is, in ANY WAY comparable, that means you are too chronically online. Those are just not comparable things, and to act like they are makes you delusional.

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 3 days ago

Well I was just trying to mirror how "substantive" your comments are but, if you think deliberately physically transporting yourself to a location to enact a show of hatred is not the same as deliberately physically opening an article about a muslim person that popped into your feed to enact a show of hatred is, in ANY WAY incomparable, that means you are too chronically online. Those are very comparable things, and to act like they are not makes you delusional.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

delusional rambling and elementary school level rhetoric that makes you look even dumber

ok bud

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

"Intentionally walking into a specific article in someone's feed" 😭 holy shit get a grip

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago
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[-] belluck 2 points 4 days ago

Usually the Religion isn’t mentioned in the headline, so maybe that’s what prompted them to make that comment?

[-] princessnorah 4 points 4 days ago

Except it is often in the headline if the person is islamic...

[-] belluck 2 points 4 days ago

That’s on the people writing headlines though, not on the commenter

[-] princessnorah 3 points 4 days ago

They chose to respond that comment to this article. Whether it was in the headline or not is irrelevant.

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[-] mathemachristian 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Punching at all religions equally is not equitable since one is the dominant religion oppressing others. Also reducing a religion to its book is just a profound misunderstanding of what religion is. And is completely ignorant of the history of homophobia in muslim countries which is largely influenced by the colonial powers occupying it.

And going from "muslim woman" to "she's like the american taliban" is just racist.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I love that u ended ur point with something you completely made up and didn't happen.

I get what ur saying in the first half, tho, i just dont agree

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Don’t mix religion and government, that’s how you get nazis and project 2025.

Thats scaremongering that letting a muslim into congress will lead to what people call the "american taliban" simply on the basis of her being muslim. That's racist.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You keep putting "american taliban" in quotes, but you're not quoting anyone present. You're the only one here using that terminology.

You see, from my perspective, I see the candidate's religion being Islam as a plus at first glance. It probably means they'll have a better policy on the Palestinian genocide, for example. Or be better for brown people in general.

I think, on lemmy, that's how most people are going to interpret that headline.

That's just an atheist pointing out that Islam is no better than the other Abrahamic religions, from my perspective. The way I interpret this is that the fact that she is muslim is being used as a positive spin, when at best it is a neutral spin that doesn't even need mentioned.

[-] mathemachristian 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The way I interpret this is that the fact that she is muslim is being used as a positive spin, when at best it is a neutral spin that doesn’t even need mentioned.

Incorrect, since muslims get mentioned on every negative thing in the headlines, therefore not mentioning it on positive things hides the positive news out of the muslim community while highlighting the negatives.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I mean, it's a leftist article being posted in a leftist space, so... no. Doesn't need to be mentioned here.

[-] mathemachristian 2 points 3 days ago

I mean, it’s a leftist article that might be visible outside of a leftist space, so… yes. It does need to be mentioned here.

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