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Self-professed 'nice kid' fatally mowed down Cranford girls at 70 mph, court papers allege
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One reason why these people are on the street is because people are too soft on mental issues and think that people don’t deserve life in prison just because they are young.
Noooooo, what you're saying is to make the prison owners (slave owners) more money while getting them young. Private prisons and mental hospitals should be abolished. There are other countries that have free mental health hospitals and prisons that aren't horrendous that are publicly owned. They're doing it right.
Example please
Examples please. 🤦♂️
The Netherlands. Very low incarceration rates, publicly owned prisons, mental health support for all inmates, mental health checklists for reintroduction jn society. Results: low crime rates, low spending.
Norway is an excellent example.
This has been hashed over millions of times. Look to Northern Europe for your answers.
You could have just said “other countries, like Norway,” but you wanted this argument. We all know who you are.
Ooh buddy, buckle up.
I love the dude coming in making baseless statements and then asks everyone else for examples.
Google it dude, it's not a secret.
Google also shows many of those countries failing to do it, and canceling programs.
Google it dude, it's not a secret.
I'm just messing with you now. I personally thought it was funny.
I’m just copying and pasting their comment 💋
I know. FYI, Cuba has free healthcare.
Yeah… I wouldn’t take Cuba’s healthcare if they paid me.
You might want to rethink that. I think their life expectancy is higher than the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba#Assessments
Criticism
The preceding study also pointed to problems within Cuba's health system, including:
Well, other than that last one. 😂 we have plenty of drugs!!!!
Prison is not a suitable environment for people with mental health issues anyway. It's simultaneously both a criminal issue and a health issue. They should be in a mental hospital, getting medical treatment until they are either safe to release, or indefinitely if they are not. We don't ask doctors to decide if convicts are safe to release, and we shouldn't rely solely on judges to decide when someone has a dangerous mental condition.
While involuntary treatment is an awful thing to have to consider and historically mental institutions have been awful places, so are prisons. And if we don't like that they are awful places, we should work to make it so that people have better support for mental and parenting issues before they reach the level of becoming criminals, so that fewer people need to be sent there, and also work to make them not-so-awful places, instead of simply deciding we will never send people there, which does not solve either problem. Because there is a legitimate need for these institutions for people of all ages, when we as a society fail at preventing people from falling into these mentally unhealthy conditions without support or treatment.
Prison can mean many things. Whatever way this is, they need to be removed from the general public and placed into a location to protect us from them. I don’t think this should be with convicted criminals, but a facility properly run to provide for these people. That’s a whole other conversation though—and it doesn’t matter because it will never happen in the US. This is as good as it will ever get. It’s all down from here.
I share your pessimism, but I still think it's important to try, and to educate. Even if all we're doing is softening the fall by the tiniest amount, and maybe laying a new foundation for something better to come after it.
I can’t argue with that, but I do think there are significantly more important things to worry about.
You had me on the first part, thinking you were going to suggest we should address mental health long before it gets to this point. But then you veered off. You wouldn't need the latter if we weren't ignoring the first part.
We need more mental health care. However, part of mental health care is caring for people who would be negatively effected by people who have [blanket term issues]. That might mean denying people like this access to the rest of humanity.
I'm sure we can figure that part out once we start working on the bigger problem overall. Maybe there will always be a handful of people that can't be helped, but we won't know that until we help those who can be helped.
Alas, never going to happen. This is the best it will get in our lifetime.
Right, people don't deserve prison because they are young. They deserve prison because they present a danger to the public.
Correct.