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Just to be clear: they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn't one of them. He didn't say anything about Charlie Kirk. He was censored for speaking truth by his own network. Not only censored, censured and suspended indefinitely.
We're 100% there kids. The founding fathers made a point to put something right after freedom of speech, from religion, and of assembly. Right there 2nd in order. Unabridged. Welp the 1st amendment is being abridged as we speak. And I hear that second thing was put in place to protect that first thing. I've been hearing it for over 50 years.
*quick edit in case anyone else wants to try to educate me about the constitution: no, he isn't protected by the 1st amendment from getting suspended. ABC should be protected but seeing as they've already settled for $16 million over threats on their FCC license and brought in new trump-friendly leadership, we can all agree he wasn't suspended due to ratings drops. Stop pretending things are normal. This is an obvious 1st amendment issue.
If you care about democracy and not what some Republican fascist say, right now is the time to buy a gun. The 2nd amendment will be purged next.
...from my cold dead hands, as they say
Cold, dead, pudgy hands.
Maybe yours
Your hands are pudgy don't lie. You don't have sleak metal mechanical hands like is proper.
To support the gun economy? The Republicans aren't coming for the second amendment. What are you getting at?
He is saying arm yourself while it is legal, so you have weapons for when you need them to fight off bad people in designer uniforms... Roughly translated.
How's that working out for people?
Look up what the Mulford act is. When the Black Panthers armed themselves and started patrolling their own neighborhoods in Oakland suddenly the Republicans were against carrying a loaded gun in public. The act was signed into law by then California governor Reagan and was even backed by the NRA
Republicans are pro free speech until they hear speech they don’t like. Republicans are pro 2A until they see people that aren’t them carrying guns.
It was a pretty tame comment too. What a bunch of snow flakes.
Hold up - it goes a layer deeper and is actually fairly similar to what happened to Colbert.
ABC had their hand forced because of a pending merger between Nexstar Media Group and Tenga, which once the FCC approves it, would place Nexstar in ownership of 80% of local TV channels in the US. Nexstar is based in Texas, so it's not exactly ABC-Disney friendly.
So they threatened to censor Kimmel themselves on local TV stations unless ABC did it for them. They had on the ground infrastructure power to do this.
And yes, we're 100% there. The key point is to understand that while everyone sees ABC as the Big Bad here, it's the infrastructure companies that have leverage and no one knows their names or how much they actually own.
Edit: Just saw this - Sinclair's local ABC affiliates are replacing Kimmel reruns will air their own CK tribute show, just on their own whatever, fuck ABC's programming.
2A for all. Time to resist in other ways
Regardless of how fascist this is of course, I think the killer isn't one of them, though? For what I understood, he grew up in a MAGA family, but then got radicalized towards the left somehow, probably online ecochambers or friends. I mean the bullet engravings, if that's all real, are pretty clear.
Downvote me if you like, but my question is genuine, if anyone will bother to reply.
The bullet engravings, while some of them use left wing slogans, were entirely based on Helldivers 2 and Groyper memes. It's an intentional bastardization of the left's terminology utilized by the far right followers of Nick Fuentes.
Dude is 22, groyper wars began in 2019 he was 16.
Just before that I was playing hall monitor on Reddit reporting subs including frenworld, clown world, etc.
IMHO if he was hanging around people like that he was being radicalized constantly
16 is the peak age to get indoctrinated. So that makes sense.
he probably follows nick fuentes constantly, and consumes other right talking heads constantly, by having tiktok, discord, or stream on, in the background of a computer. i know a trumper in my family that has far-right content constantly as a background on thier pc.
Radicalized by neonazis, fell for a trans girl, committed the right wing terrorism he was groomed to commit.
Making your first queer friend doesn’t suddenly make a person a leftist, nor does it make their violence leftist.
From what I read he was a groyper and felt that Kirk wasn't right leaning enough. but the news manipulates the information daily, so, :shrug🤷
Didn't his texts say something to the effect of, "I've had enough of his hatred." That doesn't sound like something someone who didn't think CK was far right enough would say.
You believe that this regime would release an accurate accounting of the so-called messages?
I don't trust a single fucking thing the Nazis are saying.
Ponder this as well, why are they releasing pre-trial evidence so freely? I thought things under investigation (like the FUCKING EPSTEIN EVIDENCE) were supposed to be sealed up tight during investigations?
This is conspiracy thinking.
The Utah county prosecutors office released those texts, not the Trump administration. You're suggesting that the president and his goons have infiltrated the local prosecutor to plant fake evidence where the shooter obliquely indicates he's left leaning when the fuckwits can't even keep reporters out of their signal chats?
Releasing non-confidential information to the public is common in high visibility cases like this at this point in the investigation. They haven't released anything that would compromise witnesses etc. which is what should be kept under seal.
He is one of the fascist controlled goons.
Every single republican is compromised. Active enemies of the republic. If they weren't, they would denounce America's Hitler publicly.
So yea, I don't trust a single fucking word any single worthless anti-american republican could ever spew.
Source on that? I’ve been looking for confirmation one way or the other
There are no confirmations one way or another yet, but all the circumstantial evidence is pointing strongly that he was rooted in right wing ideologue.
There is not enough information to confirm one way or the other, but there is a lot information being released. It's not hard to find with a simple search. For example the court charges document. (Whether the investigation can be trusted is another question though)
Which casing engravings were leftist?
No, not BULLETS. The bullets are the projectiles, not the enclosing brass
There's no clear evidence either way. If you cherry pick certain facts you can paint a compelling narrative of any ideology.
My take is the dude, like most Americans, doesn't fit cleanly into right or left politics but was motivated by violent rhetoric targeting queer people. But we'll see if further information comes to light.
Irrelevant. Right or wrong Jimmy cannot be suspended over this.
He'll get to youtube and find success there, hopefully.
Brave to assume YouTube won't censor him. This may go down to Peertube hosted in Europe real fast.
Is Media Goblin still a thing?
only choice is hosting his own site, or licensing his shows to other networks.
youtube is part of the problem, they promote thier current regime, through right wing propaganda flooding the feeds.
Here's hoping. Colbert too.
No way they don't both have a podcast since that's the financially lucrative model on YouTube, for better or for worse.
Seems unlikely that format would be able to fund his writers / producers etc.
This has nothing to do with the first amendment.
This is the chilling effect of Trump (the President) suing networks who report the truth about him, and recent rhetoric by members of Congress and the DoJ about using the force of government to silence a tractors. Self-centering before fascist wanna-tator comes after you doesn't make it not a first amendment issue.
Freedom of the press is literally the first amendment. Television is protected by the first amendment. He was suspended because right wing lunatics didn't like his free speech. In what world does this NOT have anything to do with the first amendment? Why am I even replying to you? You obviously have no idea what free speech means.
You. I like you.
The owner of the company can still suspend an on air personality and it's not infringing on free speech because it's not the government forcing that person off the air but rather the network they work for. Also free speech is specifically a congressional issue, the first amendment saying that congress can make no law stifling speech. It actually says nothing about legislative or judicial branches stopping speech. So it would specifically be that congress wrote a bill to kick him off the air. Otherwise it's all fair game.
Sure, if you ignore the fact that CBS settled with Trump for $16 million because he didn't like their free speech, and now they have new Trumpian leadership. You're absolutely right they have the legal right do do what they want with their business. but the alternative is being attacked by the government again, so is that your real argument?
By the letter of the law, yes. But decades of Supreme Court case law disagree with you.
https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/censorship
You never even heard of Tinker?
“Congress shall make no law…”
The press is protected from the government.
It doesn’t have a thing to do with protecting employees of the press form the press
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/politics/video/trump-threatens-to-go-after-abc-news-reporter-digvid-vrtc
GUESS WHICH FUCKING NETWORK HOSTED KIMMEL
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/fcc-jimmy-kimmel-charlie-kirk-monologue-1236373708/
he can still sue them, but he has an escape plan just in case things dont pan out, aka flee to italy.