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Regardless of how fascist this is of course, I think the killer isn't one of them, though? For what I understood, he grew up in a MAGA family, but then got radicalized towards the left somehow, probably online ecochambers or friends. I mean the bullet engravings, if that's all real, are pretty clear.
Downvote me if you like, but my question is genuine, if anyone will bother to reply.
The bullet engravings, while some of them use left wing slogans, were entirely based on Helldivers 2 and Groyper memes. It's an intentional bastardization of the left's terminology utilized by the far right followers of Nick Fuentes.
Dude is 22, groyper wars began in 2019 he was 16.
Just before that I was playing hall monitor on Reddit reporting subs including frenworld, clown world, etc.
IMHO if he was hanging around people like that he was being radicalized constantly
16 is the peak age to get indoctrinated. So that makes sense.
he probably follows nick fuentes constantly, and consumes other right talking heads constantly, by having tiktok, discord, or stream on, in the background of a computer. i know a trumper in my family that has far-right content constantly as a background on thier pc.
Radicalized by neonazis, fell for a trans girl, committed the right wing terrorism he was groomed to commit.
Making your first queer friend doesn’t suddenly make a person a leftist, nor does it make their violence leftist.
From what I read he was a groyper and felt that Kirk wasn't right leaning enough. but the news manipulates the information daily, so, :shrug🤷
Didn't his texts say something to the effect of, "I've had enough of his hatred." That doesn't sound like something someone who didn't think CK was far right enough would say.
You believe that this regime would release an accurate accounting of the so-called messages?
I don't trust a single fucking thing the Nazis are saying.
Ponder this as well, why are they releasing pre-trial evidence so freely? I thought things under investigation (like the FUCKING EPSTEIN EVIDENCE) were supposed to be sealed up tight during investigations?
This is conspiracy thinking.
The Utah county prosecutors office released those texts, not the Trump administration. You're suggesting that the president and his goons have infiltrated the local prosecutor to plant fake evidence where the shooter obliquely indicates he's left leaning when the fuckwits can't even keep reporters out of their signal chats?
Releasing non-confidential information to the public is common in high visibility cases like this at this point in the investigation. They haven't released anything that would compromise witnesses etc. which is what should be kept under seal.
He is one of the fascist controlled goons.
Every single republican is compromised. Active enemies of the republic. If they weren't, they would denounce America's Hitler publicly.
So yea, I don't trust a single fucking word any single worthless anti-american republican could ever spew.
Source on that? I’ve been looking for confirmation one way or the other
There are no confirmations one way or another yet, but all the circumstantial evidence is pointing strongly that he was rooted in right wing ideologue.
All of the quite possibly manufactured evidence you mean. Never trust a nazi to tell the truth.
There is not enough information to confirm one way or the other, but there is a lot information being released. It's not hard to find with a simple search. For example the court charges document. (Whether the investigation can be trusted is another question though)
There's no clear evidence either way. If you cherry pick certain facts you can paint a compelling narrative of any ideology.
My take is the dude, like most Americans, doesn't fit cleanly into right or left politics but was motivated by violent rhetoric targeting queer people. But we'll see if further information comes to light.
Which casing engravings were leftist?
No, not BULLETS. The bullets are the projectiles, not the enclosing brass
Irrelevant. Right or wrong Jimmy cannot be suspended over this.