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[-] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 119 points 3 days ago

We found a cure for aphantasia everyone, if this is real it needs official studies because aphantasia is a real condition (the inability of imaginining things) that impacts people

[-] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 days ago

I know a guy who has aphantasia and is using AI image generation to actually see what he’s thinking about. He explained that his imagination is more like an itemized list.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 20 points 3 days ago

That's exactly how my imagination is.

I can imagine an apple

It's red It's round It has stem and sticker

I can't see it at all

[-] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Basically the same for me. My imagination is a database. Do you get deja vu often as well? I frequently feel like I've been somewhere or seen something before because it ticks the same few boxes in the "database," since I don't have any actual visual memory. Usually the more important or significant something is, the more specificity I remember it with, which makes places I drive infrequently or things I rarely see pretty imprecise, leading to overlap.

Intersection ✅ Trees around ✅ Certain brand gas station on X corner ✅

Yep, I know where I am (is 15 miles away from there)! Thankful for navigation apps. I'd get lost constantly without em.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

I very rarely get deja vu, I don't think I've experienced it in the last year, when I was younger though in my early 20s I would get it a lot.

I do have great difficulty recognising people who I've met once or twice. Unless I go through the effort of noting down their features etc I could talk to someone walk off come back and not be able to point them out unless I hear them talk.

Here's hoping I'm never a witness to a bank robbery or something haha

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

How do people imagine stuff? When people say something like "I can imagine X vividly," I really can't relate. When asked to imagine things, I can only have split-second snapshots of the things in my mind. My mind's eye is more like reading a comic.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

no thought process is wrong as far as I know. you don't need to visually imagine things even to be successful in art, I know at least one artist who doesn't think visually, they still paint beautifully, their process just involves a lot of references and live models when possible. there's a lot of creative professionals who use just as much visual references as they do.

[-] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

I'm an artist with aphantasia! My process is different, but I'm happy with my results.

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

For ne it just happens, like blinking, no though needed. I picture a red ball and it is there i see it, i can spin it, i can even move tge camera around. Even the empty space between the ball and wall and there.

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

You've just injected a 3d animated scene into my brain and I like it

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

I have a similar problem. My apple becomes like 30 different recent apple images I have seen. Like I can try to imagine a Red delicious and at some point I lose focus and it might become a granny Smith and then back to like a honey crisp.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I’ll get snapshots that are blurry, like a momentary glimpse at a developing photograph, then it moves to the next portion. I’ll see shades of apple colors, faded to just the shape, a silhouette and only a concept of depth. I’ll imagine the weight, having thrown them so often. But no. There is no apple.

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Maybe you could train yourself to imagine longer passages?

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

How do you know that's it's round and red and has a stem and a sticker if you can't see it?

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Because I've seen them before?

It's no different to if I wrote it down

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Phantasia, at least to a certain point, can be trained. During all the constant busing to my college, whenever I couldn't use my laptop from the person seating on the side of me, imagined things, then tried to create mental images of them.

Another weird thing is, that I found out, my dyspraxia could be made much less worse, almost on par with the average person at least, by using a better pen. Probably in my case it's a mixture of having a weird skin that makes things hurt that shouldn't, and people really wanting me to learn dexterity with "ball games" (read: football, played on hot asphalt) as a kid.

[-] LadyMeow 14 points 3 days ago

Yeah, ngl I was like shoot, do I need to start doing some ai image shit?

[-] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I have no idea, really. I don't even think the post is real. I barely undertand mental images

[-] LadyMeow 8 points 3 days ago

In grade school I thought teachers were using a weird metaphor or something when they said close your eyes and picture…. Little did I know, other people actually can do that!

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

In college, I learned how to see 3D through drafting class. Like someone else posted, I bet you can train yourself to see mental images, with or without AI.

[-] Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

I bet you can train yourself to see mental images

my own experience leads me to believe this isn't always possible; I've tried previously to 'train' a visual imagination for years with no results. Combined with finding out that even DMT doesn't give me visuals, i'm pretty sure it's impossible for my brain to picture anything.

[-] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

"condition" makes it sound like it's a problem lol, it's just a variation of thought

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Aphantasia haver here. Full detail controllable movie in my head sounds cool. I also don't really care that much, though.

[-] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Good point i will keep in mind this

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It appears to be a functional lack with no upside its a disability

[-] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

It doesn't really have any downsides either so it's neutral

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

How on earth can you imagine that has no downsides?

[-] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

I can't imagine it, I have aphantasia 😎

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We don't get caught up in memories the same way which can make moving on from things emotionally easier. While things can still be traumatic, not reliving them in such detail can be less traumatic.

I wouldn't say there's no upside.

We still function just fine, it's just a different experience.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The upside sounds made up. There is no reason to believe that people with this challenge have this feature rather than you yourself having this feature for reasons completely unrelated to this.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are literal studies done on this that show we have less emotional attachment to memories via not remembering them via visualization. More studies are needed obviously, but it appears to be the case. The visualization of anything can create more emotions.

E.g someone being read a passage triggered measurable similar changes in people without aphantasia and not the same in people with aphantasia, but watching a video of something had the same effect on both.

You can view that as a negative as well, but it goes both ways.

if that's true, that would be an interesting development, and help understanding and treating it

[-] antrosapien@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Just listened to this episode about aphantasia yesterday Third eye blind

[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago

just like some people (Austin danger Powers included) don't have an inner monologue.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

We need gen-AI to be perfected first, right now its makes humans with 7 fingers and it gives me the heebie jeebies, nah, gotta wait like 10 years

[-] jdf038@mander.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Not really anymore. I mean it cant do backflips but it has been passing tests like will Smith eating soaghetti

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